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Bowman Guilty of 1st Degree Murder

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by 206thsense, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. 206thsense

    206thsense Seattle, WA, USA Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. Monica Cowles

    Monica Cowles Grays Harbor, Washington Member, NRA (Life) USCCA, ACLDN, SAF (Life) Staff Member Silver Supporter

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    Not sure you could ever claim self defense while actively driving a car--unless you were surrounded...just drive to a police station.
    I'd sure be interested to see what "NRA" video they were referencing...:rolleyes:
     
  3. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    Sure you could,if someone pulls a gun on you.
    Can your car outrun a bullet?
    Now throwing wine bottles? I'm guessing it can out run that attack
    I don't see any scape goating gun owners here though
     
  4. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    And during this road rage he never called 911?
    I can see there being a self defense claim and time someone is using a 4 thousand pound vehicle as a weapon use of force is authorized in my opinion.
    But, I think Monica is closer to being correct. You usually have a way out or at very least get 911 on speaker phone and try to get to the public or police station.
     
  5. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It depends on the circumstances.

    I used to drive I-5 between Seattle and Portland quite often, and there are long stretches there where, depending on your vehicle, you can't "outrun" someone determined to kill you.

    I think the article also mentioned he was in rush hour traffic.

    Ever been in rush hour traffic on I-5 near Seattle?

    I have - so many many many times - it is a parking lot. Hard to drive away from a crazy when you are in bumper to bumper traffic.

    It is hard to say what happened from the article - not much detail about the facts of the crime, more of a glossing over regarding the trial.

    I do have to ask, if you are planning on shooting someone, don't you think that first you would roll your window down? Pick a better time and place to do it?

    Sounds more to me like what the defendant claimed - a road rage incident, gone out of control. That said, you don't shoot someone because they are rummaging around in their car looking for something to throw at you.:rolleyes:
     
  6. scrandall01215

    scrandall01215 Washougal,WA Well-Known Member

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    Did you read the comments? What a bunch of idiots!! Oh Ya its Seattle forgot.
    Not intended to include anyone on this site.

    Stacy
     
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  7. Monica Cowles

    Monica Cowles Grays Harbor, Washington Member, NRA (Life) USCCA, ACLDN, SAF (Life) Staff Member Silver Supporter

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    That would certainly be an exception....;);)
     
  8. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    "I do have to ask, if you are planning on shooting someone, don't you think that first you would roll your window down? Pick a better time and place to do it?"
    Not if you are planing a thrill killing.Window up makes perfect sense if it's self defense.Window down says you had some time
    The thing that hurt him was leaving the scene and messing with evidence.He knew right off no one would believe his story
     
  9. Trailboss

    Trailboss Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    From the police report, the man who died had been shot four times in the head and died near this intersection. This is definitely not a bumper to bumper freeway shooting but rather a freeway rage incident that routed into a neighborhood setting before the shooting began. I have a hard time believing that the shooter couldn't just drive away.

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