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I just don't get how the 2" is going to effect the gun.
Why do people do this instead of just usind a 16 + comp?
When is that 2" going to make a difference in you mobility?
Not saying you're wrong in doing it,just wondering why people bother
I just don't get how the 2" is going to effect the gun.
Why do people do this instead of just usind a 16 + comp?
When is that 2" going to make a difference in you mobility?
Not saying you're wrong in doing it,just wondering why people bother
BTW: There's always the issue of "constructive intent" too. Say you mail order your stuff. If you have the bare barrel and a non-registered lower, your could be prosecuted. Ain't this fun?
I just don't get how the 2" is going to effect the gun.
Why do people do this instead of just usind a 16 + comp?
When is that 2" going to make a difference in you mobility?
Not saying you're wrong in doing it,just wondering why people bother
Could you site a law for us?
How would you register a lower in Oregon or Washington?
You know a "pistol" can have any barrel length ? And an unused lower can be used for either a pistol or a rifle.Doesn't matter (unless one had it sold to them as a pistol instead of AOW)
BTW...Say you built a lower that you bought as AOW.Now you build an upper in a rifle configuration. And also a pistol length upper.
Nothing is put together,so what would be wrong here?
OK so you put a pistol buffer on the lower and the short barreled upper,or the rifle upper,doesn't matter.
Still no problem.
Then you make it a rifle,with a stock and vertical grip and 16"+ barrel.
Now,with the gun never having been seen by any LEO officer or agent,or pictures posted on line,or the gun sold or traded to a dealer as a pistol or a rifle..............
you decide to make it into a pistol.
Have you broken laws? How would they be able to prosecute you if they never saw the weapon before and never knew what it was originally built as?
Since you bought the lower as AOW?
I have never done this as I do not have a pistol AR and never have had one nor would I advise such action in case you are being watched by the feds cause you talk in coffee shops too much.
If you are looking for a good deal in a comp, try a levang linear compensator. They have been around longer than most, and direct the flash and sound forward, not out.
If it was mine I'd make the barrel OAL 16.25". It's not that I don't trust the honesty of ATFs agents, well, yeah I guess that it is.
Could you site a law for us?
How would you register a lower in Oregon or Washington?
You know a "pistol" can have any barrel length ? And an unused lower can be used for either a pistol or a rifle.Doesn't matter (unless one had it sold to them as a pistol instead of AOW)
BTW...Say you built a lower that you bought as AOW.Now you build an upper in a rifle configuration. And also a pistol length upper.
Nothing is put together,so what would be wrong here?
OK so you put a pistol buffer on the lower and the short barreled upper,or the rifle upper,doesn't matter.
Still no problem.
Then you make it a rifle,with a stock and vertical grip and 16"+ barrel.
Now,with the gun never having been seen by any LEO officer or agent,or pictures posted on line,or the gun sold or traded to a dealer as a pistol or a rifle..............
you decide to make it into a pistol.
Have you broken laws? How would they be able to prosecute you if they never saw the weapon before and never knew what it was originally built as?
Since you bought the lower as AOW?
I have never done this as I do not have a pistol AR and never have had one nor would I advise such action in case you are being watched by the feds cause you talk in coffee shops too much.
All of these debates and concerns were conducted and settled years ago, albeit with a much simpler weapon: the Thompson Center Contender. You can own the carbine stock. You can own a frame. You can own a pistol barrel for it. (Even without owning a carbine barrel.) You break the nonsensical law when you assemble Stock, Frame, and Barrel. Disclaimer: I would no sooner commit this offense than rip a federally-mandated label off a mattress.
The issue erupted once again (at an earlier,simpler time with an earlier, simpler weapon). Swedish Mauser Model 94 Carbines were imported with a barrel that did not meet the federal standard for length. Before they could be sold, a 1/2" end-cap was required to be welded to the tip of the barrel. I sincerely doubt (with personal experience NOT noted as evidence) these tack-welded caps would survive for an instant the aforemetioned breaker-bar test (once again illustrating the nonsensical foundation of the law). A third weapon (of even earlier manufacture) is another example: You can own a Colt's (or Uberti replica) percussion revolver, and the carbine stock, and assemble it, shoot it, and wave it around. It is perfectly legal. If you posess a conversion cylinder to allow cartridges, you break the law when you replace the (equally powerful and accurate and deadly) percussion cylinder with the cartridge one.
Still another example of legal stupidity and inconsistency is the recent eruption of "mare's leg" lever-action carbines. (Persons old enough to recall the "Johnny Yuma The Rebel" television series are attracted to these.) Entirely legal, since they are manufactured as a "pistol". Yet, if a Winchester Model 92 Carbine is shortened to achieve the identical gun, it is a violation.
Keep in mind, the prisons are full of persons who violated totally nonsensical laws.