Other State Background check requirement for ammo unconstitutional

[Hawaiian]

And this ruling even comes from the 9th Circuit.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/california-cannot-require-background-checks-buy-ammunition-us-appeals-court-2025-07-24/

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[Dungannon]

California will probably appeal to the entire 9th Circuit which has a liberal majority. Here's hoping SCOTUS drives a stake through the heart of these shenanigans if it reaches them.

 

[bcp]

SUMMARY

Second Amendment

Affirming the district court's grant of a permanent injunction, the panel held that California's ammunition background check regime, which requires firearm owners to complete background checks before each ammunition purchase, facially violates the Second Amendment.

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/07/24/24-542.pdf

Bruce

 

[doninoregon]

"By subjecting Californians to background checks for all ammunition purchases, California's ammunition background check regime infringes on the fundamental right to keep and bear arms," Ikuta wrote.

If a background check on ammo is an infringement, how can background checks on firearms NOT be?

 

[RVTECH]

Didn't CA UNDO this, (for a few days) and then reinstate it a couple years ago?

 

[ma96782]

Yup.....and the next challenge will be to negate the requirement to get a "Permit to Purchase".

Aloha, Mark

 

[Stomper]

The trend is our friend.

 

[L84Cabo]

Didn't CA UNDO this, (for a few days) and then reinstate it a couple years ago?

This mess has been going on since 2016. And it's already been up to SCOTUS once and got remanded back down. And it's still far from over.

This is such an obvious and monumental flaw with our system. The law was clearly unconstitutional from the start. Yet California has been able to tie it up and subjugate our rights for nine years because of how slow the judicial system is. And there are are ZERO repercussions for this which is why they keep on doing this crap and will continue to keep doing this crap...And using tax payer dollars to fund their tyranny.

This needs to change. It never will, of course. But one of the gun groups should file a class action suit and demand that California return all the fees it collected under this unconstitutional law...plus interest...plus massive penalties. None of that will likely happen either. But it should.

The case is, of course, not over. It will be appealed to the corrupt 9th via en banc and this decision will get overturned, and then it will take 3 more years to get back up to SCOTUS and who know if those feckless cowards will take it...again...or not.

 

[The Heretic]

9th Circuit blocks part of gun law Newsom championed, prohibits background checks for ammo

California voters in 2016 passed a ballot initiative championed by Gov. Gavin Newsom that in part required background checks for ammunition. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found that provision violates the 2nd Amendment.

calmatters.org

In a fiery dissent, Judge Jay Bybee said the decision failed to correctly apply the Bruen test, and that using the logic of the decision, any firearms regulation could be interpreted as a violation of the Second Amendment.

uhhh yup

 

[Local Loader]

"California said several old firearms restrictions supported the background checks.
These included colonial era rules requiring licenses to produce gunpowder, the disarmament around 1776 of people who refused to take "loyalty oaths," and late-19th century rules requiring government permission to carry concealed weapons."
This ^ was their justification for this? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but weren't those restrictions placed on people who didn't pledge loyalty to the crown?

 

[CamoDeafie]

This kind of crap (States doubling down and twisting things around to make unconstitutional law) could really stop quickly if the DOJ would start arresting and charging State officials, Legislators and Governors for violating 18 USC 241 & 242; "Conspiracy to deprive citizens of civil rights" and "deprivation of civil rights under color of law"

Edit. I mean, by putting real, tangible consequences for violating the US Constitution against the officials, it would send a clear message, that the Equal Protection Clause, Federal Supremacy clause, and incorporation of the Bill of Rights with the States, requires that States follow the Federal law, and that States cannot flout the Bill of Rights which put limits on the governments of the States and the Federal Government, to protect the rights of the People.

 

[The Heretic]

 

[Johnny463]

Welcome to NY - background check for all ammo ... makes a simple purchase 15-20 minutes and causes a back up of everything .. Mag restriction, SAFE act, all wonderful

 

[titsonritz]

The trend is our friend.

Indeed, we did not get where we are overnight and we are not going to get back where we belong overnight if ever, but the trend is finally and thankfully go in the correct direction.

 

[GrayGoose]

This kind of crap (States doubling down and twisting things around to make unconstitutional law) could really stop quickly if the DOJ would start arresting and charging State officials, Legislators and Governors for violating 18 USC 241 & 242; "Conspiracy to deprive citizens of civil rights" and "deprivation of civil rights under color of law"

Edit. I mean, by putting real, tangible consequences for violating the US Constitution against the officials, it would send a clear message, that the Equal Protection Clause, Federal Supremacy clause, and incorporation of the Bill of Rights with the States, requires that States follow the Federal law, and that States cannot flout the Bill of Rights which put limits on the governments of the States and the Federal Government, to protect the rights of the People.

This kind of crap is why we have the 2nd Amendment.

 

[The Heretic]

'Freedom week': California gun owners moved fast to order ammunition after court ruling

California gun owners raced to take advantage of a new federal appeals court ruling against a law that required background checks for ammunition purchases.

calmatters.org