Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Australian Supreme Court Judge: Ban Guns

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by erudne, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    6,279
    Likes Received:
    6,918
    Australian Supreme Court Judge: Ban Guns
    By Robert Farago on September 28, 2014
    119784-7c51858a-4579-11e4-9a65-621dde564580.jpg
    Who could have seen this coming? A country enacts draconian gun control legislation that makes it virtually impossible for citizens to own firearms and then calls for a complete civilian gun ban. That could be a lot of places, but today’s episode of “Who Wants To Be A Police State?” takes us to Southern Australia, where Supreme Court Justice Michael David has declared, “My view is I think our guns laws are pretty tight, they are not too bad. But my view on guns is not confined to that. In my view, and it is a fairly utopian view, I can’t see why anyone in this city should own a gun. I think a gun with a licence is just as dangerous as . . .
    a gun without a licence. I think there should be a law that no-one is allowed to have a gun. I cannot see any logical reason for it at all.’’
    Don’t be fooled by the Justice’s admission that a total gun ban is “utopian.” The Justice’s anti-gun extremism paves the way for yet more infringement on Australian’s natural and civil (though not Constitutionally protected) right to keep and bear arms. In other words, Oz’s anti-gunners know an opportunity when they hear one.
    Mark McPherson, the father of 18-year-old Lewis McPherson who was gunned down on New Year’s Eve in 2012, supports Justice’s David’s suggestion.
    He said he “absolutely’’ supported Justice David’s views on guns and believed there was “no need at all’’ for anyone in the metropolitan area to own a firearm.
    “I could not agree more. Nobody in the city requires a gun,’’ he said.
    “In a perfect world, no-one would have a gun and no-one could shoot anyone. But the reality is a farmer probably has a legitimate reason to have a gun. But as far as people in the city go, no they definitely should not.’’ . . .
    Attorney-General John Rau, who will shortly introduce new legislation targeting those selling or supplying illegal firearms, also said he “totally agreed’’ with Justice David’s utopian view.
    “If we were starting from scratch, nothing would be more desirable from my point of view,’’ he said.
    “We have to, however, work to where we are, not where we might wish to be.
    “However, I do think there is further room to tighten the Firearms Act, in particular to treat an unsecured firearm, whether registered or not, with exactly the same severity.”
    And so it goes. So the next time someone recommends “common sense” gun laws, tell them that common sense says people who set off down a slippery slope always end up at the bottom. And that it’s harder to go uphill than it is to go down. Either that or tell them to piss off. [h/t Mark N
     
  2. timac

    timac Loading Magazines! Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,004
    Likes Received:
    1,503
    Amon Gothe.jpg
     
  3. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,092
    Likes Received:
    6,870
    Gun control isn't about making a gun free utopia.

    Gun control is about taking guns out of the hands of private citizens.

    People who want to ban all guns always want to leave guns in the hands of the police and the military, because ultimately they control *those* guns.

    I would bet that if someone asked this judge if he thought that such a ban should extend to police and military, if he answered honestly, he would say no.
     
    Screwdriver likes this.
  4. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,092
    Likes Received:
    6,870
    ?oh=8478cd2f6539b963dd6f2dd17683e007&oe=54BBA511&__gda__=1418449613_aa0267745d6a09cd9b7ac3f9c6439d2d
     
  5. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    3,074
    Well quite frankly this Australian 'Supreme Court Judge' looks 'Light in the loafers' and has TWO FIRST NAMES - Michael David - never trust ANYONE with two first names.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2014
  6. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,261
    Likes Received:
    3,074
    Dupe
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2014
  7. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    6,279
    Likes Received:
    6,918
    Obama Praises Australia’s Gun Confiscation Laws After Oregon School Shooting…
    022113_ObamaGuns-550x309.jpg
    But don’t worry, he totally respects your Second Amendment rights.
    Via USA Today:
    President Obama talked about student loans and made an emotional argument about the need to address gun violence in American during a Tuesday session on the social media website Tumblr.
    Some highlights:
    5:07 p.m. — Over and out: “I’ve had a great time,” Obama tells Tumblr users.
    5:05 p.m. — Obama says he knows one thing he’ll do after his second term is over: “I’ll be on a beach somewhere.”
    But that won’t last long, he adds, saying he wants to work with young people among other things during his post-presidency.
    “Guard against cynicism,” Obama tells Tumblr users.
    5:00 p.m. — The topic of school shootings comes up, as a questioner says he knew the college student who went on the recent deadly shooting spree in California.
    Obama says the nation has to figure out a way to keep guns out of the hands of mentally unstable people.
    Gun violence in America is “off the charts,” Obama says.
    He notes that Australia enacted gun control laws after a single mass shooting, and hasn’t had one since
     
  8. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,586
    Likes Received:
    7,120
    Firearms are the only thing giving a free people true freedom. Once the firearms go, liberty will follow. Cops and military will always have guns to protect the rich, and the govt officials. Mostly from the oppressed.
     
    Stomper and Caveman Jim like this.
  9. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,089
    Likes Received:
    1,310
    < Why they don't have school shootings in Israel.
    Notice the long gun slung over the teachers shoulder?

    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2012/08/some-notes-on-claims-about-australias.html

    Be sure and read further down in the report at the link I posted above!

    Deen
    NRA Life Member, Benefactor Level
    "Defender of Freedom" award
    NRA Golden Eagle member


    "Having a gun is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have it you may never need it again"
     
  10. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,092
    Likes Received:
    6,870
    Gun violence is off the charts?

    Obviously Obama hasn't looked at the gun violence stats by his own DOJ.

    Typical politician - they will say anything, do anything, to get their way.

    How do you know when a politician is lying?

    Obama-Lies-300x162.png
     
  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,092
    Likes Received:
    6,870
    c8cf646029590132a169005056a9545d

    Obama-Lies-300x162.png

    c8cf646029590132a169005056a9545d
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2014
  12. GuyBMeredith

    GuyBMeredith Salem, Oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    179
    Distopian...
     
  13. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    2,541
    Likes Received:
    5,652
    The memory of a population seems to be about a generation and a half. Mankind seems doomed to learn the same painful lessons every other generation or so.
     
  14. im566

    im566 Gresham Active Member

    Messages:
    390
    Likes Received:
    30
    “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting that vote.”
     
  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

    Messages:
    12,912
    Likes Received:
    19,555
    Anyone who wears a ragedy white wig on their heads and strikes a campy pose for a photo should be sent back in time to service King George III, and NOT be given any credence in today's world.
     
  16. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,620
    Likes Received:
    644
    All the Commonwealth countries have that Mommy-will-take-care-of-you fixation. I hear the Ozzies are actually pretty happy and content people, so good for them. However I prefer to wipe my own butt, thankyouverymuch.
     
  17. Gunguy45

    Gunguy45 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    284
    Likes Received:
    360
    Australia has ALWAYS been on the totalitarian side of the equation. It's far from limited to guns.

    The convicts became citizens, then some of them got elected to power, decided to KEEP that power, while telling the masses how free they were.

    LIBERTY has never, ever been a widely used phrase in Australia. They're as free as they want to be. It's their country, fine by me. But I sure as Hell wouldn't want to live in Australia, and that would be equally true if I hated guns and never wanted one. It's more subtle than the UK, but it's actually more repressive in most ways.
     
  18. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,857
    Likes Received:
    10,560
    Looks like a frilly dilly to me. Doubt if his brain functions. But probably well versed in Hitler Robotics.
     
  19. fuhr52

    fuhr52 Lane County. Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    320
    Likes Received:
    222
    If we want to keep the 1A we had better not loose the 2A. Gun control is about CONTROL period. Biggest threat to freedom is humans nature: greed, power and control.
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2014