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It's not if, it's when. So sad that the powers to be and elite class billionaires have nothing better to do than create the situation where there's open talk about Civil War/Revolution 2.0...

Drain the swamp!
 
They already won it. They literally steal from you and use your own money to fight against you, and advance -other people- who are also against you.

We should have been stacking bodies fifty years ago. Gun owners and "Republicans" are just too afraid to say it.

So you're promoting murdering fellow Americans, so much so that you're stacking bodies on high in 1969? You sound like a terrorist.
 
They already won it. They literally steal from you and use your own money to fight against you, and advance -other people- who are also against you.

We should have been stacking bodies fifty years ago. Gun owners and "Republicans" are just too afraid to say it.
Goes back further than that, FDR himself ushered in socialism under the guise of getting Americans back to work and trying to break the Great Depression... Sad that generation couldn't see it... They were busy trying to survive...
 
Having been through two different "Civil Wars"...while on Peace Keeping duty ....
I can say that I truly do not want that to happen here in America.

It is tough , brutal and never ending...
Everyone you know will be forced to take a side and may even have to betray family and loved ones...
Any "Cause" you are fighting for , can quickly devolve into , revenge , reprisal and personal feuds...

Having been shot at and shot back...as well as having survived and learned a thing or two...
I know just what I can and will do to survive again....for as long as I can....
As well as simply making sure that my choices in this life matter.
Andy
 
Having been through two different "Civil Wars"...while on Peace Keeping duty ....
I can say that I truly do not want that to happen here in America.

It is tough , brutal and never ending...
Everyone you know will be forced to take a side and may even have to betray family and loved ones...
Any "Cause" you are fighting for , can quickly devolve into , revenge , reprisal and personal feuds...

Having been shot at and shot back...as well as having survived and learned a thing or two...
I know just what I can and will do to survive again....for as long as I can....and simply make sure that my choices in this life matter.
Andy

If it does happen, it won't be like those others. The military will not hesitate to use advanced weaponry to cut the head off any kind of real violent threat in a civil war type scenario. If even for a minute generals think they would lose any significant piece of American soil, missiles would fly. Military doesn't have the patience for an actual drawn out war, they would hit hard, and fast. They'd have advanced intel, all these groups have moles in them already, and the weapons these groups do have are pea shooters in comparison to what the military can bring to the game.
 
Having been through two different "Civil Wars"...while on Peace Keeping duty ....
I can say that I truly do not want that to happen here in America.

It is tough , brutal and never ending...
Everyone you know will be forced to take a side and may even have to betray family and loved ones...
Any "Cause" you are fighting for , can quickly devolve into , revenge , reprisal and personal feuds...

Having been shot at and shot back...as well as having survived and learned a thing or two...
I know just what I can and will do to survive again....for as long as I can....and simply make sure that my choices in this life matter.
Andy

Great post. If it turns into people shooting at each other, life as we know it, is over for a while.
 
Great post. If it turns into people shooting at each other, life as we know it, is over for a while.
In all likely hood the groups mentioned with any real influence to actually organize any kind of real group of fighters would already have been infiltrated with government agents, and soon after eliminated with minimal effort by a superior military force with better weapons,intel, tech, and ability to siege a location, and bombard with powerful ordinance if they so choose. These little groups wouldn't stand a chance against the military, and their ability to actually organize on a scale able to take on military is minimal at best.
 
If it does happen, it won't be like those others. The military will not hesitate to use advanced weaponry to cut the head off any kind of real violent threat in a civil war type scenario. If even for a minute generals think they would lose any significant piece of American soil, missiles would fly. Military doesn't have the patience for an actual drawn out war, they would hit hard, and fast. They'd have advanced intel, all these groups have moles in them already, and the weapons these groups do have are pea shooters in comparison to what the military can bring to the game.
The two "Civil Wars" I was involved in were Bosnia and Somalia ...
Plenty of "Intel" there ( at least in Bosnia* ) and no one that I was with , when we were shot at ...thought the those that were shooting at us had "pea-shooters "...

*I served in both Bosnia and Somalia ( To include , being in the Battle of Mogadishu ) in a LRRP / LRSD Unit...so "Intel" was my business at one time...

I do thank you for your opinion...but...
I also respectfully disagree...as I have lived through it...and seen what happens in actual real life...not just as a theoretical exercise.
Andy
 
In all likely hood the groups mentioned with any real influence to actually organize any kind of real group of fighters would already have been infiltrated with government agents, and soon after eliminated with minimal effort by a superior military force with better weapons,intel, tech, and ability to siege a location, and bombard with powerful ordinance if they so choose. These little groups wouldn't stand a chance against the military, and their ability to actually organize on a scale able to take on military is minimal at best.

I don't think it would get to the powerful ordinance part. The steps taken by .gov to avoid that will destroy the very fabric of what this country was supposed to be.
 
The two "Civil Wars" I was involved in were Bosnia and Somalia ...
Plenty of "Intel" there ( at least in Bosnia* ) and no one that I was with , when we were shot at ...thought the those that were shooting at us had "pea-shooters "...
I served in both Bosnia and Somalia ( To include , being in the Battle of Mogadishu ) in a LRRP / LRSD Unit...so "Intel" was my business at one time...

I do thank you for you opinion...but...
I also respectfully disagree...as I have lived through it...and seen what happens in actual real life...not just as a theoretical exercise.
Andy

I respect your experience, I just don't think it would be anywhere near the same on American soil against The American military.
 
y'all got to remember, if another civil war happens, the elites will all be in their jets off to Paris or some bubblegum and it will be all us plebs killing each other.:mad:
 
I don't think it would get to the powerful ordinance part. The steps taken by .gov to avoid that will destroy the very fabric of what this country was supposed to be.
Perhaps, Though what we're most likely talking about if it even got to this point would be rural warfare, and The military I doubt would risk guerilla warfare with militants, and since the coasts would no doubt be fully controlled by the establishment, I think it be safe to say that there are a lot more bombastic options available in a rural area against a smaller, dug in force. If the military can take out a minimal group in one day with large ordinance, or something similar and cut the news cycle, and paint those dead as terrorists, that's a win to them. It's all about hearts, and minds, and no way in hell is any of these groups going to thrive for long anywhere near the coastal areas of this country.
 
Perhaps, Though what we're most likely talking about if it even got to this point would be rural warfare, and The military I doubt would risk guerilla warfare with militants, and since the coasts would no doubt be fully controlled by the establishment, I think it be safe to say that there are a lot more bombastic options available in a rural area against a smaller, dug in force. If the military can take out a minimal group in one day with large ordinance, or something similar and cut the news cycle, and paint those dead as terrorists, that's a win to them. It's all about hearts, and minds, and no way in hell is any of these groups going to thrive for long anywhere near the coastal areas of this country.

I think you underestimate the heart of a true Patriot.
 
I respect your experience, I just don't think it would be anywhere near the same on American soil against The American military.

The first battle is with LE. That is a battle that LE isn't going to win. LE will be fighting a two front war against the militias and maintaining order in the streets from looters and other opportunists. As LE loses, it will embolden the militias and you'll see desertions from the military.
 
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