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I had a .270 that was a Remington 721. Nice rifle and accurate, but restricted bullet selection. I now have a S&W (Howa) 1500 in .30-06 which allows me to shoot anything from 220 gr. on down and is capable of .75" groups at 100 yds. I've shot a .32 Special Marlin 336, a .30-30 Marlin 336, and a .243 Winchester 88 for deer hunting. I got the .30-06 for elk and moose, where I wanted to be able to shoot a 220 gr. bullet. Got rid of the .243 model 88 Winchester due to the really awful trigger design. Got rid of the Marlin 336 in .32 Special when I came across the same rifle in .30-30 due to the availability of ammo. The .30-30 and .30-06 ammo is available almost everywhere that sells ammo. That's nice when you need some and you're in the "outback" where the local retail ammo supply is on a shelf in the local grocery store."Are there any cartridges better than the .30-06? "
Not to re-ignite the oldest argument about hunting rounds in the history of the west, er the lower 48, er the U.S. but sure there is,...
The .270.
LOL!
You must have missed the "LOL" at the bottom of my post Zeke.I had a .270 that was a Remington 721. Nice rifle and accurate, but restricted bullet selection. I now have a S&W (Howa) 1500 in .30-06 which allows me to shoot anything from 220 gr. on down and is capable of .75" groups at 100 yds. I've shot a .32 Special Marlin 336, a .30-30 Marlin 336, and a .243 Winchester 88 for deer hunting. I got the .30-06 for elk and moose, where I wanted to be able to shoot a 220 gr. bullet. Got rid of the .243 model 88 Winchester due to the really awful trigger design. Got rid of the Marlin 336 in .32 Special when I came across the same rifle in .30-30 due to the availability of ammo. The .30-30 and .30-06 ammo is available almost everywhere that sells ammo. That's nice when you need some and you're in the "outback" where the local retail ammo supply is on a shelf in the local grocery store.
Nope, just outlining my experience with different hunting cartridges. I'd never really considered all those decisions together in one place before. Versatility and availability have turned out to be the drivers of those decisions.You must have missed the "LOL" at the bottom of my post Zeke.
The "ought-Six's" ability to shoot that huge variety of bullets makes it the most versatile un-belted cartridge in history.Nope, just outlining my experience with different hunting cartridges. I'd never really considered all those decisions together in one place before. Versatility and availability have turned out to be the drivers of those decisions.
The "ought-Six's" ability to shoot that huge variety of bullets makes it the most versatile un-belted cartridge in history.
The only cartridge that comes close might be the .300WM & .338WM.
But if all someone wants to do is hunt the lower 48, all you need is mid weight bullets. And the .270 does that very well.
At least as well as the 06, and in some cases better.
Where most people go wrong with the .270 is choosing O'Connor's favorite load, the 130gr bullet, over the 150gr. There's very little the .270 with 150gr slugs won't kill, and nothing in the lower 48.
BTDT with both cartridges, and I prefer the .270 loaded with 150s over the 06 with either 165s or 180s.
But I don't hunt Alaska either.
After talking to @MountainBear today on the phone he swears by it and thinks that God almighty himself owns one.
I disagree though.
God's rifle is a .30-06. No doubt in my mind.
At that point.....Rumor has it that Moses' staff was actually a .30-06, and that's what he used to part the Red Sea...just sayin'
Rumor has it that Moses' staff was actually a .30-06, and that's what he used to part the Red Sea...just sayin'
how well do most 3006 rifles stabalize that light of a bullet I have never shot anything less that 150 in a 06.This one is for you Dyjital! 110gr FMJ with unique. Should be light enough to shoot without hurting your injured shoulder.
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Except I have had two .270s that will shoot 130gr and 150 gr bullets to the same POA out to 225 yds. I could probably have gone further with both, but I just never tried.people talk about being able to shoot all these different loads how many of those shoot to the same point of impact. Seems to me that each time you change bullet weights you get to site in all over again. i have always believed in one load per rifle. Makes life easier shooting is suppose to be fun.
very nice rarely will two different bullet weights shoot to the same point. i am sure at some point along the way they cross. Knowing where they cross might be key. For every rule i have heard of thier always seem to be exceptions.Except I have had two .270s that will shoot 130gr and 150 gr bullets to the same POA out to 225 yds. I could probably have gone further with both, but I just never tried.
Light bullets are the easy ones to stabilize. It's the heavy ones (long ones actually) that are hard to stabilize.how well do most 3006 rifles stabalize that light of a bullet I have never shot anything less that 150 in a 06.