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Just picked up the ceiner kit for my mini 14 aand having some trouble getting it to work right. I understand that the mini 14 and AR do not operate the same, but the point I'm trying to get to is dealing with ceiner. If you order one from them it sounds like the delivery is 6+ months out, but they cash your check right away. If you want to know the status of your order send them $10 and they will "research" your order. For me my only choice was ceiner for the mini, if I had an AR I would definently go with another mfg. Google ceiner and read some of the complaints. I'm sure their product is worth the money, I just think customer service is worth paying a little more.