Anybody used 12ga flashbangs?

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I don't think I've ever heard anybody talk about actually using one but there are some videos on Youtube. I'm surprised nobody has restricted their use from civilians yet.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php?pName=9rds-12-gauge-flash-bang-ammo

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[m'kay13]

I have seen them used to scare of bears in AK. We called them bird bombs.

 

[aflineman]

We used to use them to scare the birds out of the crops and garden. Worked OK, and made for a little excitment during the day.

 

[Doc In UPlace]

The link, she's a-no work.

They also have some "flamethrower" ammo that looks pretty hilarious, should be quite a surprise inside a car!

 

[BUZO71]

So, do they explode on impact? Or are they fused?

 

[Doc In UPlace]

It's not a projectile, it's all done at the muzzle.

 

[mpmarty]

No, the flashbangs or bird bombs are M-80s with fuses inside a 12ga over a blackpowder charge as a propellent. They are corrosive as all get out. Don't ask me how I know. I've got about twenty of them left out of a box of 25. They work great to get the neighbors dogs to shut up at two in the morning, an air burst over their house causes the neighbors to wake up and yell at their dogs.

 

[Doc In UPlace]

The ones that Ammunition to go was selling was probably of a different type, according to their description. They described them as emitting a flash and huge explosion, not as shooting out a projectile...
These were packaged in lots of 9.

 

[ZeroRing]

No, the flashbangs or bird bombs are M-80s with fuses inside a 12ga over a blackpowder charge as a propellent. They are corrosive as all get out. Don't ask me how I know. I've got about twenty of them left out of a box of 25. They work great to get the neighbors dogs to shut up at two in the morning, an air burst over their house causes the neighbors to wake up and yell at their dogs.

Too bad you don't have a youtube video of THAT!

 

[Doc In UPlace]

OK I found it:

"This is 12 Gauge Flash Bang Ammo. This ammo is manufactured by A.L.S. Technologies, the leader in Less Than Lethal and diversionary ammo. This highly effective diversionary 12 gauge round produces a stun/diversion effect by using a bright blinding flash with an extremely powerful concussion blast from a 12 gauge shotgun muzzle."

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[ZeroRing]

And the final quote from that link: "Hearing protection is required when firing this ammo, it is extremely loud."

Seems like it's pointless to use if you only get the effect at the muzzle and you'd need to donn ear muffs, close your eyes AND turn away from the muzzle when pulling the trigger. :huh:

Which begs the question... WHY??

 

[Doc In UPlace]

Think of the fun inside a room! Or a car!

 

[ZeroRing]

Sure would give drive-bys a whole new twist!

 

[mpmarty]

The ones I have were given me by the Oregon Dept of Fish and Game to chase Elk out of our vinyard. They worked quite well. On a parabolic arc from the muzzle you could launch those M80s out about 200 yards before they detonated. Impressive, very impressive.

 

[ZeroRing]

The ones I have were given me by the Oregon Dept of Fish and Game to chase Elk out of our vinyard. They worked quite well. On a parabolic arc from the muzzle you could launch those M80s out about 200 yards before they detonated. Impressive, very impressive.

THAT would be the ones to use!

 

[m'kay13]

okay, it looks like I lied. The link didn't work for me, so I assumed you were talking about Bird Bombs, which I have seen used to scare away bears where I worked in AK.

 

[ZeroRing]

okay, it looks like I lied. The link didn't work for me, so I assumed you were talking about Bird Bombs, which I have seen used to scare away bears where I worked in AK.

Hopefully this link works...

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/12-gauge-specialty-ammo

It has the flash bang, flamethrower, and other assorted stuff. ALL of it looks expensive!! :nuts:

 

[Doc In UPlace]

It helps if you can justify it as a business-related expense.

I'd like some of those M-80 deals too, sounds like a handy thing to have for the "toolkit".

 

[Frog]

Thanks for sharing that Ammo site, ZeroRing.

I can 'see' some shotgun fun there!

I agree, a bit spendy, but they'll make great birthday presents.

Frog.

 

[korntera]

There is a lady that sells indian jewelry and stuff like this at the gun shows usually. She is like 12.95 for 3 of the 12ga shells that sell for $45 on that site. My roommate bought bean bag rounds, armor piercing(which when going through a 5gallon propane jug created a baseball sized hole) door breach rounds and some other crazy stuff. She also sells armor piercing .223 rounds for 12.95 for 10 rounds and explosive 9mm 22lr. I highly recommend her for all your crazy ammmo needs at the next show. She makes it all herself so she can tell you exactly how it works and how to make it(she sells the stuff to load your own crazy shells too.)