American Eagle Ammo

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  1. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke
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    OK, a while back I was at the range and was using my Remington rolling block that's been rechambered for .357 Magnum. The Mag-Tech rounds I was using were doing fine, no extraction problems, misfires or anything. I wanted to try some 158 gr American Eagle ammo. The first round was very difficult to extract. I checked the primer and it didn't look like it had been over-pressured or anything, it just took some extra effort to remove it. The second round stuck worse and I had to pry on it with my pocket knife to get it out. I went back to the Mag-Tech ammo with no problems, and have not had a problem with it after firing another 2 boxes of Mag-Tech. I showed the two American Eagle casings to my gunsmith and he couldn't find anything wrong with the primers or any other indications of malfunction. I suggested maybe a batch of soft brass. He said it could be a possibility, but not likely. He re-checked head spacing on the rifle and mic'd everything. Everything checked normal. I just decided since I only had a couple boxes of American Eagle .357 Mag that came in a bulk shipment of assorted brands I'd use them in my S&W pistol, where they seem to work just fine.

    Then the other day I went to the range with the aim of repositioning the scope on my Bushmaster in order to get a little better eye relief. I fired a few groups just to see where it was shooting and make sure it was in the ballpark. I was using a couple boxes of American Eagle .223 FMJ ammo that I had picked up during the shortage. I had 3 misfires out of the first 10 rounds. The primers on the misfires didn't look like light strikes. I switched to PMC .223 FMJ for the rest of the afternoon and didn't have any more misfire issues.

    Has anybody else around here had issues with American Eagle ammo?
     
  2. Ironbar

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    My issue today with American Eagle .22LR is that it was the most accurate of all the ammo I was using.
     
  3. Flopsweat

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    I've used American Eagle in a few different calibers and have never had trouble with it. My favorite 22 rifle likes their copper plated hollow points (I think it's 38 grain) better than anything but the 20 cent per round match stuff.
     
  4. Skang

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    haha what's up with the ammo issue lately.

    I guess it's possible ammo manufactures are pushing out production too fast to keep up with the orders, so QC was not done right.

    in before some say "they are junk". :bluelaugh:
     
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  5. jordanvraptor

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    Odd. American Eagle is Federal which has been the most reliable primers in my experience. :(
     
  6. erudne

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    I would Mic the ammo, clean your 2 firearms and try again, then notify AE if the problem persists. You'll get some free ammo for your effort.
     
  7. Dain Bramage

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    Exactly this. Am Eagle 38g HP's shoot the best across my entire range of .22's, especially considering the pricepoint. Match rounds will shoot better in some of my guns, but not universally so.
     
  8. Hawaiian

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    I have always had great results for plinking or range with AE in multiple calibers.
     
  9. JSJPDX

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    Have used AE in multiple handguns and long guns in multiple calibers without any issues.
     
  10. Gaucho Gringo

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    What original Remington RB Rifle is even safe to be rechambered for.357 Mag. They were built to take BP pressure loads, not magnum smokeless powder loads. The only one I think could even remotely handle the loads would be a 7MM and even then it would be chancy being that it was the last of the Rolling Blocks. Now if you are talking a newer reproduction one then it might be ok but the rechambered sent up red flags.
     
  11. Nightcrawler

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    I'd like to run a similar test, with my Beretta ARX 160. From what I've read and understand, it appears that I will need about 10K rounds to perform an accurate test. Care to make a donation to assist with my thesis paper? :bluelaugh:
     
  12. tacticalgunner

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    I have had issues with 12 gauge bird shot with failure to fires and 9mm. I agree, the primers are terrible. I waited and waited for all to cook off, nothing happened, ejected it, cycled it back through quickly and it fired. I don't think i ever had a 223/5/56 fail on me.
     
  13. ZigZagZeke

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    RB's are specified good to about 45,000 psi in most of the specification sources I know of. A .357 Mag round makes 35,000 psi according to SAMMI. Mine has had a 4130 Chrome Moly steel liner added to the original barrel. The original breech block has been reworked to replace the large diameter BP firing pin with a small diameter smokeless firing pin. These are recommended changes when firing smokeless cartridges in an original RB.
     
  14. Gaucho Gringo

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    Did you have the receiver heat treated like the Swedish RB's were when they were converted to smokeless? I apologize, I thought it was one of those many hack jobs on a RB that I have seen over the years. Did you do it yourself or have it done? I have an old .43 Spanish and you just gave me an idea. If you had it done could you please tell me who did the work. Thank you.
     
  15. ZigZagZeke

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    The receiver was heat treated and case colored. The metal work was done by Jim Dubell at Delta Gun Shop / Clearwater Reboring in Colville, WA. Jim is a master gunsmith, and is a member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild. Here's an excerpt from his web site:

    Jim is a rare combination of a master artist and technician, who also understands the emotions and personal histories attached to individual weapons. He's a great guy to work with. We spoke weekly for about 16 months while he resurrected my great-grandfather's rifle from a piece of scrap to a work of art.
     

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