Poll: .45 ACP: Too Much Recoil??

[Phillyfan]

You want snappy, try a kahr PM40! Loved that gun, but it did jump.

 

[HahnsXD]

No, I shoot 10mm

 

[sports-shooter]

So what you are saying is a 45ACP pistol doesn't necessarily kick more than a 9mm?
We got that part.

Actually, the 45ACP will "always" have more recoil than a 9mm. As to how the user feels that varies with the gun and the shooter.

For a given weight (mass) of a projectile and speed of the projectile, the force in the other direction (recoil) is constant. That force will act on a mass (the mass of the gun and the mass of the shooter). This will determine the speed on that direction.

I think we should not confuse the actual recoil versus the perceived recoil. The actual recoil of a given cartrige/powder/bullet combination is constant. The perceived recoil is determined by the gun and the shooter.

Most of the 40's are made on the 9mm frames.May have bigger springs and heavier parts,but for the most part they are the same basic gun as the 9mms

The 45ACP was built on a way bigger frame,hence more weight and controllable recoil

I think we are talking about the ammunition and not the combination of the gun and ammunition. If it is the latter, the OP would have specified a particular gun or else there is nothing to compare.

But if you want to go that route then, it is not true that the 9mm is built for lighter guns. The 9mm was developed long before the 45ACP. The 9mm was developed for even older, all-metal guns. But these days, the 45ACP exists both on heavier guns (1911) and lighter guns (Glock 21). The same can be said for the 9mm (1911, Glock 17).

 

[MA Duce]

The 9mm was developed long before the 45ACP.

Depends on your definition of "long" The 9mm appeared in 1902. The .45 ACP in 1904

 

[MA Duce]

No, I shoot 10mm

I routinely shoot a 11.43mm. pistol.. Like the recoil on that one as well.

 

[sports-shooter]

The 9mm was developed long before the 45ACP.

Depends on your definition of "long" The 9mm appeared in 1902. The .45 ACP in 1904

The 9mm was patented in 1898.

Also, one of the earliest 45ACP pistol was a Luger. They modified the 9mm Luger to fire the bigger round.

File:Colt 1905 Luger 45.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[MA Duce]

The 9mm was patented in 1898.

Also, one of the earliest 45ACP pistol was a Luger. They modified the 9mm Luger to fire the bigger round.

File:Colt 1905 Luger 45.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I sit corrected..it was the parabellum that emerged in 02.....

 

[marty8587]

Great thread, education without attitude, History and tech. I love this stuff!

 

[Riot]

too much for my wife, maybe...for me? Not so much

 

[deadeye]

When asked why I carry a 45 ACP, I replied "cause they dont make a 46".

45 ACP....... when shooting twice is just silly

Well.....

 

[MrNiceGuy]

45acp is for small women and effeminate dwarfs.

If it doesnt start with a 5, it should be embarrassing for you to shoot.

 

[mjbskwim]

I think we are talking about the ammunition and not the combination of the gun and ammunition. If it is the latter, the OP would have specified a particular gun or else there is nothing to compare.

Can't really take one without the other,now can you?
As sport shooter was talking about "perceived" recoil,yada yada,the recoil that is felt is from the load,yes.But also what gun it was fired from.

Can't judge one without the other.

And as I said before,not talking about what frames the 9mm was made on now,the 40 needed a platform and the easiest way to do that was to use the 9mm pistols.
They didn't need the heavy guns chambered in 45ACP

NOW....... now all three calibers come in all shapes and sizes.All using the full size to the sub compact frames.

That wasn't the case when they started the development of the 40 S&W

Actually it was started as the 10mm for the FBI

 

[Phillyfan]

The 9mm was developed long before the 45ACP.

Depends on your definition of "long"

Let's go with my wife's definition, wait, let me ask her first. No, go ahead and come up with your own.

 

[MA Duce]

45acp is for small women and effeminate dwarfs.

If it doesnt start with a 5, it should be embarrassing for you to shoot.

Oh......I'm not a woman...so I guess I'm an effeminate dwarf......but I will never give up my little popgun.

 

[Phillyfan]

Like 5.7?

 

[MA Duce]

Like 5.7?

No....my 11.43mm

 

[lowridedon]

I just got back from some quality trigger time with my son. We shot 9, 40 and 45. I can't tell that much difference between 40 & 45 on my guns.

Colt Defender and XD40 SC, so approx same weight.

I got my Defender first because side by side with a 9, the Colt had a more satisfying bump.

I have to go now and clean guns.

 

[pioneer461]

Maybe for some folks with certain medical conditions, or very small boned folks without much in the way of grip strength, but for most folks, the .45 acp has perhaps the mildest recoil of the major calibers. I've demonstrated by shooting a 1911 with just two fingers. Index finger on the trigger, thumb on the grip safety. Not a problem.