1913 DWM luger value

[Kaiser Joecks]

Guy, I used to work with is possibly interested in selling this 1913 DWM luger. It doesnt have the last round hold open and doesnt have the stock slot. He says the its numbers matching minus the mag which appear to be WW2. Any info as to a good starting point value wise. Also i told him to wipe it down with an oily rag to get that surface rust off.

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[jbett98]

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I would take it apart and verify matching numbers and document that with pics, its super easy to do these days and I am sure would increase its value. Do a little research on the proofs and figure out if its commercial or military, I suspect 1913 is gonna be commercial but an extra stamp or two might make it World War I used. Looks 9mm to me but verify that too. 9mm helps with value since you can plink with it. Unless it turns out to be something special I assume $1300-$1700. Hard to sell the garden variety commercials these days for much more.

 

[Chris Siler]

I believe it is a military firearm because commercial products were not dated on the chamber. It is 9mm, the mitary did not use 30 Luger. Yes, value is effected greatly by matching numbers. Not so much by a mismatched magazine. Your pistol would have been shipped with a wood bottom magazine. The one in it is WWII Mauser product with a pinned aluminum magazine. The gun was probably reissued in WWIi which is how it acquired the WWIi magazine. It is interesting that there is no bolt hold-open because those were often added in WWI and even in WWII. It may be there and it us simply rusted. The gentleman is right about oil. Please tell your friend not to get oil on the wood.

If you do buy it, may I respectfully suggest the following? Remove the grips, put them aside, then replace the screws so they don't get misplaced? Then disassemble the piece to whatever level you are comfortable with. Watch a few online videos if you are unfamiliar with how to do it. Next get some penetrating oil and liberally saturate all metal parts. You can "borrow" a pan from your wife, but you'd be best served by a mechanic's magnetic tray; again, so nothing is lost. Don't do anything except check it every few days and apply more oil. Be patient and allow a couple of weeks for the oil to get under the rust. Get some #4 bronze wool online. Ace Hardware carries it too. It's actually brass. Brass is softer than steel so you won't harm the blue much. Steel wool is steel, it's hard and will remove a lot of rust, but will take off a lot of blue as well. You may need to reapply the penetrating oil and wait another week, then hit it again with bronze well.Next dry everything off and lightly oil with regular gun oil and reassemble. Depending on how dry the wood is you can use some wood oil, but not gun oil as it will darken the wood.

If I offended your gun knowledge with my over long treatment plan, I apologize.

It's a nice Luger that has been a bit neglected. I'm sure you will like it a lot more after getting some grit off of it.

Valuation is difficult because it is in poor condition and you won't see the final product for a while. If you can get it for a grand, you won't get hurt even if it doesn't clean up well. If it does, it will be worth a lot more.

These old guns are cool!