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.17 Winchester Super Magnum: Here we go, Boys!

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Spitpatch, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Announced very recently is Winchester's newest offering toward Rimfire enthusiasts: .17 Winchester Super Magnum. 3000fps. Case was developed from .277 Rimfire nail-gun propellant cartridges.

    Savage will most probably have the first guns out within the month. Probably NOT the 93 action, but based on the current (larger) action that handles the Hornet.

    Time will tell if this new offering takes off as did the HMR: beyond all expectations, including my own.

    Price point for ammo is described as the $15 range. For those who have discovered the Winchester ammo as superior to all other offerings in the HMR ($13 and rarely on sale), this is not beyond consideration.
     
  2. coyoteman5

    coyoteman5 North south east west Active Member

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    I'm kind of fascinated by this round I'm going to look into it.
     
  3. bartman315

    bartman315 Sandy, Oregon Member

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    Looks very promising, looking forward to hearing more about this....
     
  4. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    same bullet weights, 17 & 20gr?
     
  5. WilliamIV

    WilliamIV Longview, Washington Active Member

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    I for sure will be getting one of these when they come out. The Savage B. Mag that's chambering it seems pretty cool as well.
     
  6. tahoe2

    tahoe2 Seattle area, Washington state Member

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    best guess on ammo price?
    why not a 17 Remington? isn't that reloadable ??
     
  7. sheepdip

    sheepdip Redland Well-Known Member

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    just another flash in the pan wildcat cartridge, will fade out just like the 270 wsm........ oh wait I have a 270 wsm.......... nevermind.
     
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  8. lucky guy

    lucky guy Sisters Active Member

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    20gr at 3000fps or so and 25gr at 2600 IIRC.
     
  9. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    1) see original post: price point at about $15 a box.

    2) Yes, a .17 Remington is reloadable. A .17 Remington is also in a completely different power class (25g bullet at 4020fps). Comparing one to the other is precisely the same as comparing a .22 Magnum to a .220 Swift: Apples and Oranges.

    However: For someone interested in a reloadable .17 at just above .17 Win Super Mag velocities (therefore somewhat comparable), another new offering has emerged: the .17 Hornet. I believe that in this case, Rugers will be the first guns out (another partnership between Ruger and Hornady).

    As for sheepdip's quip:bluelaugh:, those of us old enough to recall the 5mm Remington (introduced in 1972), were absolutely certain the .17HMR would similarly fall flat on its face. (The 5mm was practically the same concept, only in .20 caliber).

    We had to eat crow. Then we went out and bought HMR's and shot crows.
     
  10. gehrheart

    gehrheart fidalgo island Well-Known Member

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    intrigued i am.....


    and the list just got longer.
     
  11. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Chalk me up in the "don't get it camp" :confused:

    I'd rather have something that is reloadable or if it's going to be rim fire, cheap to shoot, like 500 rounds for 20 bucks cheap.
     
  12. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The .17 Incinerator is reloadable (.50bmg necked down to .17) :thumbup:

    17-50-BMG-Incinerator-Collectors-Cartridge.jpg

    17-50-BMG-Incinerator-Collectors-Cartridge.jpg
     
  13. TylerDurden

    TylerDurden PDX New Member

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    I talked to the Savage Rep at the Sportsman's Show. He said the .17 WSM B Mag rifle wont hit the streets until May @ around $299. You will have to wait until 2014 for a heavy barreled or stainless model. Ammo is going to be around $18 per box of 50 for the first year because only winchester is making the ammo. When the other manufacturers start making the ammo it will go down to $13-$15 per 50.
     
  14. MicroManager

    MicroManager St. John's New Member

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    All hail the Incinerator! Is that available in ballistic tip?
     
  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The guys on Rimfire Central are all going a little nuts over this. Should be an interesting little cartridge for the sage rat and pairrie dog shootin crowd.
     
  16. tcs#1

    tcs#1 oregon Member

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    I'll just stick with my 17 K Hornet
     
  17. Spitpatch

    Spitpatch Forest Grove, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Now THERE is an example of conservative sensibility. (NOT to say the 17KH is in anyway conservative, of course.)
     
  18. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

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    Okay, now I am in the get it camp. I recently got a .17 HMR in trade on some reloading supplies I had and LOVE IT. After reading a few reviews, I think if I was able to do more varmint hunting the 17 WSM would be at the top of my list.

    FWIW, the Sportmans off 82nd and JCB had a 1 box of Winchester 17 WSM on the shelf. I didn't notice the price.
     
  19. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    A friend of mine recently bought a Savage 17 HMR from another co-worker and after he took it out and reported on the results I could tell he was not very impressed. He mentioned the bullets were quite susceptible to wind drift at the 100 + yard range and started losing velocity very quickly at about the same distance. His conclusion was it was at best a 100 yard or less round and I think he was expecting more.
     
  20. Kruejl

    Kruejl Hillsboro Moderator of the Coriolis effect Staff Member Gold Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I'm lost...did this go from the .17WSM to the .17HMR thread?