10/22 woes (looking for places to troubleshoot)

[Wombat of Doom]

I have a 10/22 that's more Volquartsen than Ruger at this point. Every time my daughters fire it, it jams. They fire it from a bench on a bipod. When I fire it, it runs perfectly even if I fire it identically. I can't figure out how it fails to feed, and fails to eject when they pull the trigger. The ejector is a Kidd. Trigger is Volquartsen.

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[Flopsweat]

I have a 10/22 that's more Volquartsen than Ruger at this point. Every time my daughters fire it, it jams. They fire it from a bench on a bipod. When I fire it, it runs perfectly even if I fire it identically. I can't figure out how it fails to feed, and fails to eject when they pull the trigger. The ejector is a Kidd. Trigger is Volquartsen.

That is weird. Do you load and insert the magazine, hold the gun and press the trigger the exact same?

 

[Knobgoblin]

Match chamber?

 

[Stomper]

Cursed daughter?

 

[salmon creek gary]

Seems like you have the same thing going on as when someone "limp-wrists" an auto-loading handgun.

Are the girls just resting the gun on the bench and not holding it firmly enough to keep it relatively stationary against the recoil? If the entire firearm is able to move rearward too much when fired, some of the energy needed to work the action is depleted. That will naturally result in some instances of failure to eject and/or failure to feed.

Even though the gun is resting on the bench & bipod, teach them to grip it firmly, just as if they were shooting offhand.

 

[Flopsweat]

Seems like you have the same thing going on as when someone "limp-wrists" an auto-loading handgun.

Are the girls just resting the gun on the bench and not holding it firmly enough to keep it relatively stationary against the recoil? If the entire firearm moves rearward too much when fired, then some of the energy needed to work the action is depleted. That will naturally result in some instances of failure to eject and/or failure to feed.

Even though the gun is resting on the bench & bipod, teach them to grip it firmly, just as if they were shooting offhand.

A regular 10/22 will run fine either way, but a high speed low drag model, who knows.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Seems like you have the same thing going on as when someone "limp-wrists" an auto-loading handgun.

Are the girls just resting the gun on the bench and not holding it firmly enough to keep it relatively stationary against the recoil? If the entire firearm moves rearward too much when fired, then some of the energy needed to work the action is depleted. That will naturally result in some instances of failure to eject and/or failure to feed.

Even though the gun is resting on the bench & bipod, teach them to grip it firmly, just as if they were shooting offhand.

The bench is nice, but going prone would sort out this theory.

Shooting in the traditional prone puts not only your shoulder , but all of your body behind the gun. If a correct shooting position is used, limp wrist type jams would be impossible.

 

[Duneblaster]

There are mods you can do to make these more reliable. And trigger work without paying Volquartsen prices.

 

[solv3nt]

There are mods you can do to make these more reliable. And trigger work without paying Volquartsen prices.
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He's right, Tony Kidd makes some great triggers.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

That is weird. Do you load and insert the magazine, hold the gun and press the trigger the exact same?

all except perhaps how I pull the trigger on a benched rifle. I can shoot off a magazine I loaded and inserted, pass it to my daughter and it jams. I shoot the next few rounds from the same spot on the bench, runs fine. rinse & repeat.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

He's right, Tony Kidd makes some great triggers.

Volquartsens were purchased long ago. And Kidd left a sour taste in my mouth with the barrel I bought. Sent bullets down range like one pellet out of a sawed off shotgun. I never got better than a 3 foot group out of it at 25 yards. (Stock barrel could do less than an inch)

My daughters are not going to lie in the dirt to go prone. I do have a match chamber in this one. Buit it generally is rock solid reliable

 

[solv3nt]

Volquartsens were purchased long ago. And Kidd left a sour taste in my mouth with the barrel I bought. Sent bullets down range like one pellet out of a sawed off shotgun. I never got better than a 3 foot group out of it at 25 yards. (Stock barrel could do less than an inch)

My daughters are not going to lie in the dirt to go prone. I do have a match chamber in this one. Buit it generally is rock solid reliable

I was kind of kidding, I'm pretty sure Kidd is more expensive

 

[Wombat of Doom]

BTW, same thing happens with a bone stock 10/22 and an SBR'd 10/22 even when I am actually physically holding the gun to prevent recoil. It is kind of maddening.

 

[Flopsweat]

BTW, same thing happens with a bone stock 10/22 and an SBR'd 10/22 even when I am actually physically holding the gun to prevent recoil. It is kind of maddening.

Gotta be how they're shouldering it or how they press the trigger. Do they sit sideways and hold the back of the stock with their non-firing hand, or do they grip the forend?

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Grip the foreend

 

[Flopsweat]

Grip the foreend

Have them try it the other way. Have them press and hold the trigger for a second when they fire. Hold the stock while they shoot. Try some creative things like this and you'll stumble across a clue.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Have them try it the other way. Have them press and hold the trigger for a second when they fire. Hold the stock while they shoot. Try some creative things like this and you'll stumble across a clue.

This general idea.

 

[Flopsweat]

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This general idea.

Or like this:

 

[Knobgoblin]

BTW, same thing happens with a bone stock 10/22 and an SBR'd 10/22 even when I am actually physically holding the gun to prevent recoil. It is kind of maddening.

All traditional, rifle style stocks?

 

[Xaevian]

Are they putting any pressure on the mag area with their off hand?