National What the heck was this guy thinking?

[bikemutt]

I'm surprised he got 5 years, 'course at that time he'll have the IRS to deal with.

Seller of gun used in West Texas mass shooting pleads guilty

LUBBOCK, Texas (AP) -- The man who sold an AR-15-style rifle used in a last year's mass shooting that killed seven people in West Texas pleaded guilty

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[Bushman]

All for a profit of $100-$200

 

[gmerkt]

He sold guns to felons. I hope his stay in the joint is a miserable one. He betrayed public safety for mere money.

 

[P7M13]

@Stomper summed it up well in another thread:

Lucre​

 

[Alexx1401]

No better time for "play stupid games win stupid prizes". He was not just buying and selling. He was doing home manufacturing to sweeten the pot. All to make a few bucks. Wonder if he still thinks it was such a great idea as he did when he came up with this side job make money plan?

 

[orygun]

No better time for "play stupid games win stupid prizes". He was not just buying and selling. He was doing home manufacturing to sweeten the pot. All to make a few bucks. Wonder if he still thinks it was such a great idea as he did when he came up with this side job make money plan?

Just like regular ol drug dealers...
And theives.

 

[The Heretic]

He sold guns to felons. I hope his stay in the joint is a miserable one. He betrayed public safety for mere money.

It is people like that who make the case for private sale BGCs - unfortunately. Of course, this guy probably would have sold those guns without a BGC anyway - whether the locale mandated it or not.

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

It is people like that who make the case for private sale BGCs - unfortunately. Of course, this guy probably would have sold those guns without a BGC anyway - whether the locale mandated it or not.

One person's bad judgment wouldn't, in my mind, make any case against the hundreds of thousands of others who try to use good judgment when conducting private sales. Regardless of what he might've done if there were different laws, there are legion examples of transactions that are done the responsible way in states that don't require BGCs

Edit: It was worse than just "bad judgment"

 

[WillametteWill]

Notice what he was actually convicted of / plead to:

Marcus Anthony Braziel, 45, of Lubbock, also pleaded guilty to concealing the proceeds from weapons sales from the IRS, according to a statement from federal prosecutors. He faces up to five years in federal prison. No sentencing date has been set.​

Not selling to felons, not for failing to run bgc's, not milling lowers and selling them. But tax evasion and unlicensed firearms dealing (according to the article).

 

[The Heretic]

One person's bad judgment wouldn't, in my mind, make any case against the hundreds of thousands of others who try to use good judgment when conducting private sales. Regardless of what he might've done if there were different laws, there are legion examples of transactions that are done the responsible way in states that don't require BGCs

Edit: It was worse than just "bad judgment"

Gun control advocates don't care that 99% of gun owners are law abiding citizens (even if we don't like the laws). They will point to the 1% as their proof that we need more laws.

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

Gun control advocates don't care that 99% of gun owners are law abiding citizens (even if we don't like the laws). They will point to the 1% as their proof that we need more laws.

Unfortunately, I think you're absolutely right. Your original post didn't say it made a "valid" case, so you could say my reply makes a case for no BGCs on private sales

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

Gun control advocates don't care that 99% of gun owners are law abiding citizens (even if we don't like the laws). They will point to the 1% as their proof that we need more laws.

I was having a discussing with a gun control advocate Tuesday night (I was discussing, she was arguing and yelling). I continually showed her data that disproved every "fact" she knew. I even showed her the news outlet rating websites which told her that her sources were as dishonest and biased as the outlets she abhors. In the end, she didn't care about facts and data even when looking them directly in the face. Given her unwillingness to look at logic and the hot pink yoga pants she was wearing, I chose to forego the battle to win the war

 

[The Heretic]

I was having a discussing with a gun control advocate Tuesday night (I was discussing, she was arguing and yelling). I continually showed her data that disproved every "fact" she knew. I even showed her the news outlet rating websites which told her that her sources were as dishonest and biased as the outlets she abhors. In the end, she didn't care about facts and data even when looking them directly in the face. Given her unwillingness to look at logic and the hot pink yoga pants she was wearing, I chose to forego the battle to win the war

So, if I understand you correctly - the yoga pants won out in the end?

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

So, if I understand you correctly - the yoga pants won out in the end?

It was an unfair tactic on her part, but one I would gladly lose to again. I did hold out until I knew the outcome was foregone and continuing to discuss was only lessening my chances. I stand by my decision

 

[CountryGent]

His life is screwed up for good. Cold comfort to the families of the victims.

 

[The Heretic]

It was an unfair tactic on her part, but one I would gladly lose to again. I did hold out until I knew the outcome was foregone and continuing to discuss was only lessening my chances. I stand by my decision

I was married once.

Once.

I never let such things as yoga pants/etc. win over my convictions again - I walk away. If I can't respect what is going on inside their mind, I won't touch them.

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

I was married once.

Once.

I never let such things as yoga pants/etc. win over my convictions again - I walk away. If I can't respect what is going on inside their mind, I won't touch them.

I've never been married. I can separate my convictions from my eyeballs for a solid month. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

Yes, it falls apart after 4 weeks, but then I don't lose half my stuff either

 

[The Heretic]

I've never been married. I can separate my convictions from my eyeballs for a solid month. Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

I let my hormones override my brain when I was young, and I am still paying for it 50 years later. I love my daughter, and I would do almost anything for her, but I will never again get involved with a woman I don't respect - not even for one night. Marriage or not - too much to risk; pregnancy, STDs, community property, just general craziness and heartbreak. YMMV

 

[TorchRedTulsan]

I let my hormones override my brain when I was young, and I am still paying for it 50 years later. I love my daughter, and I would do almost anything for her, but I will never again get involved with a woman I don't respect - not even for one night. Marriage or not - too much to risk; pregnancy, STDs, community property, just general craziness and heartbreak. YMMV

My mileage has not varied. I never claimed to be smart

 

[awshoot]

@Stomper summed it up well in another thread:

Lucre​

Pocket change.