Utah CCL application - tips, etc?

[evandrago]

I have my Oregon CCL and want to apply for Utah one as well so I have more places that I can carry. Any tips in applying? It also mentioned that I need a "firearms familiarity course certified by BCI." - is this something I can do in Oregon?

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[PhillipeC]

You can sign up for a class with a certified instructor. Usually they will, at the completion of the class, give you the application signed by them. You then go to a place where you can get passport photos and Fingerprint card and then put it all in an envelope and mail to Utah. I did the Oregon+Utah combo class and it was around $110 in Clackamas. Just Utah class is probably $60-70 I would say and you have to do it so the instructor can sign your application.

 

[solv3nt]

Don't be a criminal?

 

[Stomper]

Don't be a criminal?

Or……. convert to Mormonism, and pick up an extra wife or two while you're at it?

 

[Mathias]

Or……. convert to Mormonism, and pick up an extra wife or two while you're at it?

ONLY if you can afford them.....

 

[Gbirk]

Or……. convert to Mormonism, and pick up an extra wife or two while you're at it?

Worst advice I have ever heard. One is plenty.

 

[WillametteWill]

As @PhillipeC said...some of us in Oregon that are certified provide the fingerprinting and photos while at the course so you leave with basically everything you need to apply. The instructor should (must) have a red stamp from Utah that he/she will place on your application. We are givers so we even provide the envelope with postage.

The process with Utah is easy and they are good folks to work with. They actually work within their required deadlines. Novel concept.

 

[DLS]

The class offered by SafeFire provides everything you need. Photo, fingerprint card, properly endorsed application, addressed envelope. They even photocopy your DL and CPL for you, since those items are also required as part of the application package.

 

[Gbirk]

I have heard conflicting reports. Does an Oregon resident with an out of stat Utah permit allow for concealed carry in Washington currently?

This page seems to indicate it does not, but I am not sure what "provisional" means: https://www.atg.wa.gov/concealed-pistol-license-reciprocity





OK, so looking at the Utah website, the "provisional" permit is specifically for people between 18-20 years old and is a separate permit from the "normal" CCW license that issue. So a regular Utah permit should be good to go, correct?

Provisional Firearm Permit Frequently Asked Questions | DPS – Criminal Identification (BCI)

Provisional Firearm Permit Frequently Asked Questions

bci.utah.gov

 

[PhillipeC]

I have heard conflicting reports. Does an Oregon resident with an out of stat Utah permit allow for concealed carry in Washington currently?

That is what they taught us in our class. With the Utah CCL you can carry in the state of Washington.

 

[Stomper]

Worst advice I have ever heard. One is plenty.

Maybe try a rental or lease with options to buy…..

 

[solv3nt]

I have heard conflicting reports. Does an Oregon resident with an out of stat Utah permit allow for concealed carry in Washington currently?

This page seems to indicate it does not, but I am not sure what "provisional" means: https://www.atg.wa.gov/concealed-pistol-license-reciprocity

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OK, so looking at the Utah website, the "provisional" permit is specifically for people between 18-20 years old and is a separate permit from the "normal" CCW license that issue. So a regular Utah permit should be good to go, correct?

Provisional Firearm Permit Frequently Asked Questions | DPS – Criminal Identification (BCI)

Provisional Firearm Permit Frequently Asked Questions

bci.utah.gov

That is my understanding.

 

[when_DM_smiles]

is this something I can do in Oregon?

UT BCI has a list of instructors on their website. My UT CCL experience back in 2020 was proof of a class (half-day), application with fingerprints, copy of OR CHL, and $ fee and then received the permit +1month later.

The only hang up I could think of was finding an instructor/class that was on the list of "Certified Concealed Firearms Instructors". Good luck. It's worth getting if you travel.

I have heard conflicting reports. Does an Oregon resident with an out of stat Utah permit allow for concealed carry in Washington currently?

My understanding is that reciprocity is determined by WA law and interpreted by the WA State Attorney's office. Therefore I worry that the official MOUs between states might change without my being aware.

If you live in the PDX metro area but travel to/through Washington regularly, I'd suggest getting your WA CPL (in addition to UT). It's a small/moderate investment ($50/5 years) but simplifies explaining resident/non-resident if ever officially questioned about concealed while in Washington. (Check out Vancouver PD for the permit application)

 

[DLS]

@Gbirk

You are correct:

The standard Utah non-resident permit IS recognized by Washington State.

The Utah provisional permit is NOT recognized by Washington State.

 

[Gbirk]

UT BCI has a list of instructors on their website. My UT CCL experience back in 2020 was proof of a class (half-day), application with fingerprints, copy of OR CHL, and $ fee and then received the permit +1month later.

The only hang up I could think of was finding an instructor/class that was on the list of "Certified Concealed Firearms Instructors". Good luck. It's worth getting if you travel.



My understanding is that reciprocity is determined by WA law and interpreted by the WA State Attorney's office. Therefore I worry that the official MOUs between states might change without my being aware.

If you live in the PDX metro area but travel to/through Washington regularly, I'd suggest getting your WA CPL (in addition to UT). It's a small/moderate investment ($50/5 years) but simplifies explaining resident/non-resident if ever officially questioned about concealed while in Washington. (Check out Vancouver PD for the permit application)

Good tip. I am up in Washington enough where it probably makes sence to just get a non-resident permit. Thanks.

 

[DirectDrive]

Good tip. I am up in Washington enough where it probably makes sence to just get a non-resident permit. Thanks.

If you just want to carry in WA, it's cheaper to get your WA concealed because no class certificate is required.

 

[evandrago]

As @PhillipeC said...some of us in Oregon that are certified provide the fingerprinting and photos while at the course so you leave with basically everything you need to apply. The instructor should (must) have a red stamp from Utah that he/she will place on your application. We are givers so we even provide the envelope with postage.

The process with Utah is easy and they are good folks to work with. They actually work within their required deadlines. Novel concept.

Who do you work for?

 

[evandrago]

If you just want to carry in WA, it's cheaper to get your WA concealed because no class certificate is required.

I figured why not get one that is accepted in many places We also go hiking in Utah often.

 

[evandrago]

Reading the laws, it seems like I can use my CCL in Utah and Arizona already and those are the states where I would like to visit (for hiking, camping etc). So maybe I do not need one after all (though the Washington part is really good to have).

 

[Camelfilter]

Reading the laws, it seems like I can use my CCL in Utah and Arizona already and those are the states where I would like to visit (for hiking, camping etc). So maybe I do not need one after all (though the Washington part is really good to have).

I don't believe any state honors Oregons CHL, because Oregon doesn't honor any other. Lack of reciprocity.

It's been a bit since I've checked, so. Certainly could be mistaken…