Time is running out Oregon

[rdb241]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQCRflxetBk

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[arakboss]

@HighLine what happens if a customer brings a blank to your shop next week (after Sept 1st) for your serialization service?

Are you entering these into a book?

 

[rdb241]

@HighLine what happens if a customer brings a blank to your shop next week (after Sept 1st) for your serialization service?

Are you entering these into a book?

Like the vid said. Only if it stays over night. Same day ....no

 

[arakboss]

Like the vid said. Only if it stays over night. Same day ....no

They could be entering the newly created serial number in a gunsmith book? I would be surprised if they didn't have to record a newly created serial number somewhere. But if that is the case, I guess the ghost gun would still be a ghost gun but with an untraceable serial number.

 

[jbett98]

Dang, I just remembered I have three virgin 80% lowers, plus the jig.

 

[SuperiorGlock]

Time to buy tools and do it all yourself!

 

[HighLine]

Unfortunately the video posted is full of WRONG information....

Here is direct from the ATF:

Is a licensee, who receives a PMF solely for marking a serial number, required to complete an ATF Form 4473 and conduct a NICS check prior to returning the PMF to the customer?

No. Marking serial numbers on PMFs is a "customization" and a licensee's return of a firearm, received solely for repair or customization, to the person from whom it was received does not require an ATF Form 4473 pursuant to 478.124(a) nor a NICS background check. However, licensees must record the acquisition and disposition of the PMF in the licensee's A&D record.

So yes, it is logged into our A&D book as required and then logged out to the customer who brought it in. No a background check is not required to get your PMF back as it is considered gunsmithing.

We have 2 laser engravers and are open 7 days a week so we will be processing PMF's until the deadline.

 

[rdb241]

They could be entering the newly created serial number in a gunsmith book? I would be surprised if they didn't have to record a newly created serial number somewhere. But if that is the case, I guess the ghost gun would still be a ghost gun but with an untraceable serial number.

Yes it woud be recorded somewhere but if it stays over night they log it in to the shop books and you have to pay fo another background check to get it back.