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They are pretty sweet. I loved mine But they cost 3x as much to shoot and 5x plus to buy. Probably aren't as good of a suppressor host. And in my experience don't blast trash any better.
Each there own.. Im not sure i would take a free Hi-Point anything at this point of my life.
 
If I see one imma buy it just to strip it and funnel entirely too much money into it just to freak other people out…
I would not turn one down. $450 or so.

Barrel - 4150 Chrome Moly Vanadium
Lower Receiver - Forged 7075 T6
Upper Receier - Forged 7075 T6
Muzzle Device: A2 BIRDCAGE
A2 Pistol Grip
Mil-Spec Bolt Release
Mil-Spec Magazine Release
Mil-Spec Charging Handle
Carbine Buffer
30 Round Magazine
 
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The HP-15 is a very new release, so they are completely untested in the market. They have zero reliable reputation, any anything said about them I consider unreliable until we get more data points.

But having said that they seem to be a solid bargain AR-15; the parts are basically all mil-spec or better, forged and properly coated, nothing fancy or expensive added on top just to drive up the price/marketability. Everything being said about them, in both initial reviews and in their marketing indicates this is my kind of AR-15; a solid, reliable workhorse that should go for thousands of rounds with zero fuss.

We will have to see if that is actually the case, but if we are going by pure reputation I would bet that is exactly the case, as that is the ethos of what Hi-Point is when you get past all the hazing from the wider community. Hi-Point makes reliable, durable guns, and I doubt they would trash that reputation on a barely functional AR-15 given that that reputation is literally all they have to trade on. The moment they make an unreliable gun is the moment they have nothing left to offer in the marketplace and they turn into the next High Standard, auctioning off the name and becoming a zombie "parts distributor" that few actually remember the name of.
 
PCCs are never known for great accuracy, they are short range weapons that can struggle with pinpoint accuracy past 50 yards. and while you can lob rounds out past 100 and try for hits, I would make sure you have a pretty big gong if you want those hits to be somewhat consistent.
Well, I guess I should consider myself lucky with my Ruger PCC as it is considerably more accurate than this.

Benchrested with good loads it will 'cloverleaf' at 50 yards and 100 + yards clays and similar sized targets (some a bit smaller) are still pretty easy and this is with it's factory peeps sights.

I suspect part of this is due to it being of a conventional design and therefore it can be held and supported in a more stable manner, and being a Ruger it is obviously tighter, with better tolerances than say a Kel Tec or some other PCCs and this contributes to it's better accuracy.

I certainly do NOT consider it as having 'pin point' accuracy OR a 'long range' rifle but it has certainly exceeded my expectations in the 100 yard and less category!
 
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Next time I go out for fun I think I'm gonna toss a spare old vxII on my hi point carbine and see just how far out I can walk the thing before it becomes a real cone of fire haha.
 
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want a PCC get the original. M1 Carbine. 80 yrs and still king. IMHO.
Kick myself now and then that I did not hang onto a couple of them when they were so cheap. Never have been able to reason why no one seems to be able to make them now that work. With the manufacturing tech we had so long ago they could crank them out by the ton and they just worked. Now? Pay a hell of a price and a LOT of them just will not work. Between that and the end of all the cheap surplus ammo, miss those days.
 
Kick myself now and then that I did not hang onto a couple of them when they were so cheap. Never have been able to reason why no one seems to be able to make them now that work. With the manufacturing tech we had so long ago they could crank them out by the ton and they just worked. Now? Pay a hell of a price and a LOT of them just will not work. Between that and the end of all the cheap surplus ammo, miss those days.
I have no experience with any of the new/ newer production m1 carbines are they really that bad?? My old inland that burned had issues when I first got it but after I got ahold of a few magazines that weren't worn all the way out it ran like a top. I've always heard people complain about even the ww2 guns not being very reliable but the story's I've heard from ww2 vets was the opposite that when all the gear was new it worked great. but I imagine that a good percentage of people's issues might have also been caused my magazines that were worn out long ago.
 
I have no experience with any of the new/ newer production m1 carbines are they really that bad?? My old inland that burned had issues when I first got it but after I got ahold of a few magazines that weren't worn all the way out it ran like a top. I've always heard people complain about even the ww2 guns not being very reliable but the story's I've heard from ww2 vets was the opposite that when all the gear was new it worked great. but I imagine that a good percentage of people's issues might have also been caused my magazines that were worn out long ago.
They are now pricey and a real crap shoot. AO still makes them but I RARELY see one. WAY too many got one and they were absolute crap at a VERY high price. Couple members here can tell you about what happened when they bought one. Have no idea why for that price point, they can't crank them out that just sing. If they did I would have bought one for sure.
 
Have you ever held one of those? It is surprisingly well balanced and comfortable
I mean, it is still what it is, but . . .
The after market for those shows how successful they have been. For a long time after they hit the PCC boom had not started. Being I was a HUGE PCC fan from way before I almost bought one a couple time due to how damn cheap they were. Back when they had that look like the rifles from that movie. They sold for $150 and for all the laughing they just worked. Would be interesting to try one with one of the stocks like that on it.
 

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