Tell me about your experiences with the mini Draco

[ch139]

Hi guys, looking for your first-hand experiences with the mini Draco.

I have a "normal" or "full-sized" Draco that is registered and is an absolute blast to shoot (literally). This Draco has a fixed AK stock and is a fun range toy. With a folder scabbed on it's uncomfortable to shoot and still too big to hide away in any instance.

Have hatched this idea that a mini Draco might be amazing as a kind of "backpack" gun. Add Krink style side folder and have a gun that is backpack size (albeit loud and obnoxious).

So, having never fired a mini Draco, what are the mini Draco's like?

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[Unka-Boo]

I put a mag through one once...loud, blasty, obnoxiuos, but kinda fun.

Only thing I might be concerned with is terminal performance, pretty short barrel for x39...

Oh, and hey!!! Glad to see youre still around

 

[64MercurysRule]

Welcome back .

 

[Knobgoblin]

Tried one once, maybe 60 rds or so. Not much different than the " standard " length in blast/noise. I do usually have some type of brake on the 2 that I kept.

Hated the wavy looking wood handguard. Wide and ungainly.

 

[ch139]

Thanks for the info guys, I really appreciate it.

Was watching an older MAC video where he chronoed some M43 through an AKM, Draco and mini Draco.

This was from the AKM.



This from a "normal" Draco



This from a mini Draco

So, a loss of velocity to be sure, but not the end of the world, not like a .223/5.56 or 5.45 would have with corresponding loss of terminal performance.

 

[ch139]

Just a pic gleaned off the web.



Not a fan of the underfolder, but paints a picture of shortness.

Thinking the "normal" Draco is going to have a tough time being that proverbial "backpack gun." The mini seems just about perfect.

 

[Howard1955]

Allow me to introduce you to Black Betty.









I thought I would use her as a home defense weapon, but she was a fire-breather. Even with a flash hider installed.

She was literally a blast, and I realized that I would probably be temporarily blinded by the muzzle flash if I had to set her off indoors. So, she got traded away.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[ch139]

That is pretty rad!

While I'm not adverse to big muzzle blasts, I think you're right in something like that being detrimental in any kind of role other than a fun range toy.


The Moist Nugget - 16.5-inch 91/30

… fun range toy

Howard, what muzzle device do you have there? Looks kinda like a Krink booster. Did you ever use a flash hider? Wondering what that might have been like with A1 like flash hider.

 

[Howard1955]

9mm doesn't hit as hard as 762X39, but it's a lot more manageable. Have you looked at the CZ Scorpion Micro?

 

[ch139]

I have thought about the CZ. I have a normal Scorpion already and a few other PCCs. Hoping to figure out something more "stout." Something "robust" (like an AK folder) that would be rifle caliber, but still compact like would fit into a backpack. The ARs is kinda my go-to, but can't get it compact enough with the receiver extension. Had thought about a side folder for AR, but don't sleep well thinking about the novel options.

 

[Howard1955]

Someone on here will probably have experience with what you're looking for. Good luck!

 

[ch139]

Also, like Knobgoblin had mentioned, the hand guard is not a happy thing to think about. Have seen that MI has an option but options are certainly limited.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Also, like Knobgoblin had mentioned, the hand guard is not a happy thing to think about. Have seen that MI has an option but options are certainly limited.

If you're sbring it , then you can rock the forward vertical grip

 

[clanhanson]

I put a mag through one once...loud, blasty, obnoxiuos, but kinda fun.

Only thing I might be concerned with is terminal performance, pretty short barrel for x39...

Oh, and hey!!! Glad to see youre still around

X39 is similar to 300 blackout and performs well out of shorter barrels.

 

[Howard1955]

That is pretty rad!

While I'm not adverse to big muzzle blasts, I think you're right in something like that being detrimental in any kind of role other than a fun range toy.

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Howard, what muzzle device do you have there? Looks kinda like a Krink booster. Did you ever use a flash hider? Wondering what that might have been like with A1 like flash hider.

Pretty sure it was this one:

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[Unka-Boo]

X39 is similar to 300 blackout and performs well out of shorter barrels.

I know...but micro has a 6" barrel, I'd bet 9mm has better numbers...will have to look...

 

[clanhanson]

I know...but micro has a 6" barrel, I'd bet 9mm has better numbers...will have to look...

I'm willing to bet x39 still has more foot-pounds.

 

[Knobgoblin]

I know...but micro has a 6" barrel, I'd bet 9mm has better numbers...will have to look...

9x39 , and you're the the most mall-spetsnaz dude ever.

 

[MikeInOr]

I had similar thoughts about a mini Draco or similar AK SBR. After much contemplation I think I like the idea of a SBR 300 BLK as I think it would be more versatile. 300 BLK would give up some velocity over 7.62x39 but not a lot. You could quiet standard velocity 300 BLK down some with a suppressor so it isn't as ear rupturing. Or you can give up a notable amount of velocity and energy and shoot subsonics which would be more suitable for indoor use / home protection. I am tossing around the idea of a 9" 300 BLK barrel, or maybe a 6.75" barrel for a little more compact package when using a suppressor.

Like the OP I already have a SBR 9mm and would like something with a bit more (rifle) punch capability even if 300 BLK subsonic ammo doesn't offer much of energy advantage over 9mm subsonics.

It looks like 300 BLK subsonics has about a ~40 - 50% energy increase over 9mm subsonics due to heavier bullet weight (220gr vs 147gr).
But 300 BLK has about a ~300% energy advantage with supersonic ammo over 9mm supersonic.
And 300 BLK have about ~85 - 90% energy capability of 7.62 x 39.

Hence my thinking 300 BLK has the potential of being much more versatile than 7.62x39???


I am just toying with the idea right now and would be interested in any ones thought on the idea.

 

[Unka-Boo]

I'm willing to bet x39 still has more foot-pounds.

I did a little digging around and couldnt find any numbers for less than 16" barrels...I'm curious now.