Swiss Products - New product - over-bore mount for K31

tac · Aug 25, 2022

The title tells you all you really need to know - the previous device had the scope set about 3/8" to the right - not a problem, since no matter what distance you were shooting at, the POI remained the same. Please ignore the dioptre foresight - I leave it on no matter what I'm shooting as I only have the one K31 for all the different 'comps' I shoot. I DO remove it for the iron sights only match, not shot here now for over three years....

This scope is a 1950's K4 Weaver of astonishing clarity - for $25 in a jun- antique shop in Wheeler.

However, I recently received a nice shiny new over-bore mount from my good friends in Kalispell, so I though I'd let the vacillators see what they are missing out on. The mounts are 1" Hawke model 23010, low mount QR with an old Weaver 6-9x40 scope of astonishing clarity, given its age - in excess of fifty years. Please note that apart from being a grateful sometime customer of Swiss Products, I have no other connection with them.

ilikegunspdx · Aug 25, 2022

tac said:
The title tells you all you really need to know - the previous device had the scope set about 3/8" to the right - not a problem, since no matter what distance you were shooting at, the POI remained the same. Please ignore the dioptre foresight - I leave it on no matter what I'm shooting as I only have the one K31 for all the different 'comps' I shoot. I DO remove it for the iron sights only match, not shot here now for over three years.... This scope is a 1950's K4 Weaver of astonishing clarity - for $25 in a jun- antique shop in Wheeler.

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However, I recently received a nice shiny new over-bore mount from my good friends in Kalispell, so I though I'd let the vacillators see what they are missing out on. The mounts are 1" Hawke model 23010, low mount QR with an old Weaver 6-9x40 scope of astonishing clarity, given its age - in excess of fifty years. Please note that apart from being a grateful sometime customer of Swiss Products, I have no other connection with them.
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Is this the one that takes airgun sized scope mounts? I have one of those but have never put it on. I think it looks like that but I'd have to check. Can't remember. Maybe it's offset version? Pic of the rifle just for fun.

tac · Aug 25, 2022

The original version DOES use an 11mm wide - rimfire/air rifle - mount. And yes, it IS offset 3/8" to the right of the bore. As it is parallel, that doesn't matter a hoot, especially at 500 - 600 yards - it's STILL 3/8" off.

The new one is sold as a complete package for $145.00, but it you read the blurb there's a deal there, too. It uses a full-size Weaver/Picatinny rail and will take a truck mounted in suitable ring - the material from which it is made is seriously tough, and the deep sub-surface anodising process used by SW ensures that it's way harder even that steel. Obviously, the finishing process is commercially protected, but my old unit - over ten years old new, has been around the block a few times in the arena of hard knocks, and there is not a single mark on it anywhere - it truly looks just like new.

My advice is to take up Latigo on his offer, mentioned in the advertisement on the excellent web-site. And if you do make contact, tell him I sent you.

crossbow5 · Aug 25, 2022

I bought the original mount and even 3/8" inch to the right was difficult to use, so I bought the piece to put the scope over the bore and I like it a lot better. Only issue I have is that the empty cartridges don't eject well even with the sheet metal deflector. Using an an old Bushnell scope.
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ilikegunspdx · Aug 26, 2022

I noticed the k31s with original scope are offset to the left. The sniper gun (can't remember the name, the one that is like $5000) had the scope centered over the bore, but the entire action was rotated to the right to allow use of stripper clip(charger I assume). Pretty wild.

From forgotten weapons videos. K31 with scope:

Sniper rifle:

tac · Aug 27, 2022

Yes, the *ZfK55 is the made-as-a-sniping rifle. If you can find one for $5000, buy it. NOW!

*Zielfernkarabiner Model 1955

ilikegunspdx · Aug 27, 2022

tac said:
Yes, the *ZfK55 is the made-as-a-sniping rifle. If you can find one for $5000, buy it. NOW!

*Zielfernkarabiner Model 1955

Not interested in that gun at all. The reason is simply value/opportunity cost. Not due to the gun. It's a cool gun.

Same reason I don't buy some high value luger. I appreciate the gun but it's not worth that $ to me. I would rather buy 8-10 really cool, good quality, and high value guns for the same amount of money total. I see many of those sniper rifles listed today for $5500.