Suggestions for a take down rifle?

[Spitpatch]

I think we need more info, like what's your budget and what's your worst case scenario idea that you might need it for?

I believe this is a question that has already been asked. You may sit down, now.

 

[Spitpatch]

I believe this is a question that has already been asked. You may sit down, now.

That was abrupt. I would apologize, but with previous encounters, I know it bounced off, and you are occupying your time with a clever response that I deserve.

Fire away.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

I believe this is a question that has already been asked. You may sit down, now.

It was asked, BY ME!!!!!

And the Dr said that I didn't need to worry about my A.D.H.D.

 

[Outpost75]

Just to add flavor to the discussion. Other barrel John Taylor has made for what we call The Infamous Bunny Gun is a 20-inch, 4-groove, government form ten-inch twist chambered in .30 M1 Carbine with Picatinny rail, M1 Carbine rear sight and M14 front sight. He also cut a Rim seat in the barrel so rifle can use .32-20 rounds. Shares both ammos with my Ruger .30 Carbine Blackhawk which I had professionally shortened to 5-1/4" for compactness. Gives up little in velocity or accuracy compared to the original 7-1/2" barrel. Norma 110 soft points do 1400 fps from the 5-1/4" revolver and 2000 fps from the 20-inch rifle. Factory lead 100-grain .32-20s get 900 fps from the Ruger and 1280 from the rifle. Mostly use .32-20 as non destructive small game load. The .30 Carbine SP is effective on small deer to 100 yards.

 

[Mark W.]

I got two Id chose
1. M1 M1A1 carbine folding paratroop stock. Running 125gr Sierra FPHP slugs at 1900fps.
2. Pre war Winchester model 1894 TD 16" barrel in 30-30win with the same Sierra 125gr FPHP at 2500fps full length mag 6rds if you fiddle with tge spring and follower a little. Your choice of sights mine would be a good two step Buckhorn rear brass bead front w/hood.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

1. M1 M1A1 carbine folding paratroop stock.

Sadly the pistol grip and folded length make it an AW under WA law

 

[Outpost75]

I got two Id chose
1. M1 M1A1 carbine folding paratroop stock. Running 125gr Sierra FPHP slugs at 1900fps.
2. Pre war Winchester model 1894 TD 16" barrel in 30-30win with the same Sierra 125gr FPHP at 2500fps full length mag 6rds if you fiddle with tge spring and follower a little. Your choice of sights mine would be a good two step Buckhorn rear brass bead front w/hood.

Lots of experience with the M1 Carbine. Not "small game accurate." The Ruger .30 Carbine Blackhawk fed good ammo is actually more accurate when fired off sandbags out to 100 yards than the typical GI carbine. The Bunny Gun is solid 2-inch, 50-yard grouper with the iron sights. A low power hunting scope shaves about another half inch off that. Firing lead .32-20s inch groups at 50 yards with best ammo are possible.

Lots of experience with pre-1964 Winchester 94s in .30-30 also. With tweaked bands and handguard best you can hope for is about 1-1/2 to 2 inches at 50 yards with the iron sights and good handloads. Barely small game accurate. But I put lots of small game in the pot with 116-grain #3118 .32-20 bullet and 5 grains of Bullseye as long as I kept shots within 25 yards.

 

[trukinbear]

Lots of experience with the M1 Carbine. Not "small game accurate. The Ruger .30 Carbine Blackhawk fed good ammo is actually more accurate when fired off sandbags out to 100 yards than the typical GI carbine. The Bunny Gun is solid 2-inch, 50-yard grouper with the iron sights. A low power hunting scope shaves about another half inch off that. Firing lead .32-20s inch groups at 50 yards with best ammo are possible.

My first rifle was a Rockola M1 carbine that I bought for $5 mailed to my home from the Director of Civilian Marksmanship. It was as new/unissued condition, and it more or less sent projectiles down range. Accurate like a .50-90 Sharps on buffalo - where every single shot at 300 yards actually hit a buffalo because there was a zillion of them standing in a gigantic mass. Maybe if the field was full of wall to wall squirrels you might hit one with a M1 carbine LOL They do make a handy club

 

[Mark W.]

Lots of experience with the M1 Carbine. Not "small game accurate. The Ruger .30 Carbine Blackhawk fed good ammo is actually more accurate when fired off sandbags out to 100 yards than the typical GI carbine. The Bunny Gun is solid 2-inch, 50-yard grouper with the iron sights. A low power hunting scope shaves about another half inch off that. Firing lead .32-20s inch groups at 50 yards with best ammo are possible.

Ok fine then how about a O/U or S/S 20ga with 20" barrels recut for interchangeable chokes. Then add a couple of Centerfire barrel inserts they come with 18" lenght. In the calibers of your choice. I would go with something like .22 Mag and 308 and your good for quail to geese and rabbit to Elk. You can even have interchangeable sights or a scope mount.

 

[trukinbear]

Ok fine then how about a O/U or S/S 20ga with 20" barrels recut for interchangeable chokes. Then add a couple of Centerfire barrel inserts they come with 18" lenght. In the calibers of your choice. I would go with something like .22 Mag and 308 and your good for quail to geese and rabbit to Elk. You can even have interchangeable sights or a scope mount.

Somehow that doesn't sound very affordable, but very interesting nonetheless.

 

[thorborg]

300 Savage 99 take down

 

[Outpost75]

Ok fine then how about a O/U or S/S 20ga with 20" barrels recut for interchangeable chokes. Then add a couple of Centerfire barrel inserts they come with 18" lenght. In the calibers of your choice. I would go with something like .22 Mag and 308 and your good for quail to geese and rabbit to Elk. You can even have interchangeable sights or a scope mount.

Fooled briefly with various insert adapters and tubes in various shotguns. Zeroing is a problem. Accuracy spotty also. Lots of better choices for the weight and cube. That is why I had several pistol caliber barrels purpose built with good sights. Not cheap, but probably less than your suggested combo. And now you can buy one factorymade in Turkey off the shelf for $300.

 

[Deavis]

Contender with folding brace or stock as an SBR

 

[Medic!]

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89-500-sw-take-down-carbine/

Money no matter?

Washing approved.

Not many rounds. So make them big.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Folding weirdness. Side mag. Probably not legal in wa but maybe is cuz bolt action?

View: https://youtu.be/NoOMuGWyTQU?si=Gig306YrvMdF6mWM

 

[orygun]

Marlin Papoose.
It's the same action as the Marlin 60 and it comes apart easily and has it's own floating case.
A friend has one. I think he thought he might go backpacking, but I'll tell you that's not something he's gonna do!
Anyway, fun little gun. It always seemed to go back together and retain zero well enough.
Wouldn't be impossible to get it threaded for a can.

 

[orygun]

https://www.bighornarmory.com/product/model-89-500-sw-take-down-carbine/

Money no matter?

Washing approved.

Not many rounds. So make them big.

That's bad to the bone!

 

[orygun]

Since a defined practical "purpose" remains unstated, some here have assumed it may be a survival rifle. Others have assumed it would be a (fantasy)"SHTF" gun to be used against other naked apes in the certain-to-happen-any-minute Zombie holocaust.

I'm with @Outpost75 in assuming it has to useful. Now.

...Not in some movie I saw. His offering is bulletproof, practical, but not what I would choose, laboring under my own (perhaps misplaced) assumptions.

I'd choose a Savage 24. (30-30 or .223 over 20 ga.). Effective against Zombies or neighbors trying to steal your water. More importantly, it will put protein in front of you today or tomorrow whether or not you need strength to fight a neighbor.

(It fits in a Clarinet case with ammo and telescopic sight, and will kill on the wing or at 300 yards.)

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A friend has a 22LR over .410. I think he wants me to make an offer.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I assumed when op said rifle he was talking about centerfire.

If .22 that's a whole different ballgame (on many levels). I wouldn't use a 22 when there are centerfire options personally but if it had to be a 22lr then a tac r1 with folding stock is the first thing that comes to mind.

Another one woudl be force B1 where you could have 22 and 22 mag quick change barrels. It's still pretty long though with barrel removed. Possibly the s&w folder? Is mp5 rifle wa legal? It has telescopic stock.

Again though I wouldn't use rimfire personally unless I absolutely had to. Probably tons more of 22lr options size wise but still just a 22.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

A friend has a 22LR over .410. I think he wants me to make an offer.

Why not get one of the gazillion combination guns out there instead? For example tikka 12 gauge/222 Remington <$800. Various gauges and calibers such as 7x57, 6x52, 22 savage, 5.6 x 52, 7x 65, 5.6 x 50R. Usually Finnish or Brno. Tons of them for around $800. Or spend more and get a drilling with similar calibers but some have larger calibers such as 9.3. There are TONS of these guns out there for sale.

For me .410 has no value at all. I'd much rather have any other gauge shotgun (except 9mm flobert ha ha).