Sorry But That's Not An SBR.

[arakboss]

Yeah. I see three pistols, one has a brace.

Kinda like these pics. Once a braced pistol, now an SBR. (with a different paint job)

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The brace haters club is strong.

 

[orygun]

The brace haters club is strong.

It cost me more for the stock than it did to change it's classification.
If it wouldn't have been free to change it, I wouldn't have done it. For my uses the brace was fine, but I do like the longer LOP with the stock.

 

[ken98k]

I have not looked into it recently, but the rule used to be, A rifle with a barrel shortened to less than 16" required SBR paperwork.
An action that has never been assembled as a rifle can be built as a pistol without the SBR paperwork.

 

[1775usmc]

I have not looked into it recently, but the rule used to be, A rifle with a barrel shortened to less than 16" required SBR paperwork.
An action that has never been assembled as a rifle can be built as a pistol without the SBR paperwork.

How the lower was marked/identified on the 4473 is what determines how it can be built out.

If it was sold as a "rifle" it can never be a pistol. If it was sold as a "pistol" or "other" it can be a pistol or a rifle. Up to the builder.

So if sold as a rifle and it has a barrel on it less than 16" it doesn't matter if it has a brace, stock, or naked buffer tube. TECHNICALLY it's a SBR and needs the proper NFA paperwork.

Feelings and how something "looks" doesn't matter.

 

[orygun]

How the lower was marked/identified on the 4473 is what determines how it can be built out.

If it was sold as a "rifle" it can never be a pistol. If it was sold as a "pistol" or "other" it can be a pistol or a rifle. Up to the builder.

So if sold as a rifle and it has a barrel on it less than 16" it doesn't matter if it has a brace, stock, or naked buffer tube. TECHNICALLY it's a SBR and needs the proper NFA paperwork.

Feelings and how something "looks" doesn't matter.

The only other hic-up to that is if the ATF reverses (again) and says having a brace makes it a Short Barreled Rifle.
Last time they did that a lot of us filed the paperwork and bought stocks. It was free, before anything else was.

 

[1775usmc]

The only other hic-up to that is if the ATF reverses (again) and says having a brace makes it a Short Barreled Rifle.
Last time they did that a lot of us filed the paperwork and bought stocks. It was free, before anything else was.

I'm only referring to a lower that was sold as a "Rifle" specifically.

The alphabet boys under this administration or any other administration aren't for the "people" and it's their goal to make things so muddy that people are scared to do anything. They run off fear. And they themselves don't know what they claim to know.

I personally think AR "pistols" are dumb and a gimmick. That doesn't mean I think people shouldn't be allowed to own them if they wish to. With that said know how your lower was marked/sold before you build. Cause the nomenclature matters legally speaking. Or do what you want. I don't care. You're the one that's gunna have to answer for it if it becomes a legal issue. Not me.

 

[Steel Head]

The only other hic-up to that is if the ATF reverses (again) and says having a brace makes it a Short Barreled Rifle.
Last time they did that a lot of us filed the paperwork and bought stocks. It was free, before anything else was.

I decided not to play the brace/pistol game.
I don't want to the government to get wishy washy about it nor do I trust them on stuff that pushes the boundaries of regulations.

I do plan on SBR'ing one or possibly two rifles in the future.

 

[CamoDeafie]

I decided not to play the brace/pistol game.
I don't want to the government to get wishy washy about it nor do I trust them on stuff that pushes the boundaries of regulations.

I do plan on SBR'ing one or possibly two rifles in the future.

Well the current $0 transfer/making tax is the best time right now to SBR whatever you want, before the Midterms, before the next session of Congress. Depending on how the whole Iran, Epstein, and ICE hullaboo goes by Midterms, if there's a chance of the House and Senate flipping blue, then that means the $0 transfer tax could well go away in the next budget bill and I would expect them to try to put in a new tax that reflects the current inflation rate and then set forth a law to couple the tax rate of NFA to inflation percentage, meaning as long as inflation goes, the tax goes up every fiscal year.

 

[Camelfilter]

I decided not to play the brace/pistol game.
I don't want to the government to get wishy washy about it nor do I trust them on stuff that pushes the boundaries of regulations.

I do plan on SBR'ing one or possibly two rifles in the future.

The "neat" thing about the braced pistol amnesty to SBR was no engraving needed…

 

[orygun]

The "neat" thing about the braced pistol amnesty to SBR was no engraving needed…

Yes. Legal gun that doesn't look like one...

 

[CamoDeafie]

Yes. Legal gun that doesn't look like one...

Congress could (should) repeal the registration part of NFA for the $0 tax firearms before the midterms, and then that just leaves MGs and Destructive Devices as NFA items still with $200 tax stamps....

I have my doubts that SCOTUS will do anything relating to NFA before the Midterms; and ATF could simply adjust regulations and say new NFA engravings not needed for $0 taxed firearms but registration still required, just "adopt the original manufacturing markings" like they did with the pistol brace amnesty not that ATF is going to respect the 2A anyhow