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I lii ok be my 617, it's a factory 10 shot. The Speed Beez is a must, especially with kids. I have the 4" version and it's easily one of my favorite revolvers.Finally got a 617! The DA trigger pull was quite heavy at 12# and it was originally a 6-shot. Here is what I did to lighten the pull reliably, convert it to 10-shot, and get it ready for Steel Challenge!