Finally got out to English Pit. Only put about 75 rds through each. Had one FTF with the .45 and that was a limp wrist on my part. Main reason for going out was to sight in the CT lasers. The P45 was pretty close, the PM was off the paper so I reached into my vest pocket for the allen wrenches and found.......the ones I had with me were for the CT Laser Grip on my Charter Arms Bulldog. Oh well, an excuse to go again! I did find that I liked the .45 better than the 9 as it was easier for me to shoot so I will continue to carry it.