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Alright guys,
Here is a little background. With my little bit of free time last week, I spent a couple of hours looking for a 30-06 Semi-Automatic Precision Rifle. I also learned about PSL's and VEPR's in 7.62x54r and other various calibers. I am looking to stick with these two calibers as I already have them in my inventory and I am likely not going away from them. I have three mosins and about 1000 rounds for them and it is easy to come by much more if I want to, I have my 700 in 06 and about 1500 rounds for it. My father in-law also has a reloading set up and will hopefully be teaching me to reload in the fall. Within his possession he has maybe 25,000 to 50,000 30 caliber bullets and the components to reload at least 10,000 rounds of 06 and possibly much more I am trying to be conservative with my estimations of what he showed me a few months back, and he doesn't even have an 06 anymore.
So, this isn't an immediate purchase I am trying to gather some more info. If I could pick one up somehow before November that would be great, but unlikely as I don't have the funds or the trading fodder at the moment to get me there.
Here are my basic requirements. Primary purpose SHTF vehicle stopping SAPR in 30-06 or 7.62x54r not primary weapon more of a stationary semi portable weapon, weight is not a huge issue but it must be easy portable by one person with ammo in normal conditions, decent accuracy out to 4-600 yards (but primary use would be within say 200 yards) I am going to throw 2MOA out there but not a deal breaker as my skills barely let me hit 2 MOA with a bolt action at this point.. I would like the option of at least 10 round detachable box magazines, easy optics mounting ability, and easily upgraded and repaired. I want something I can work on with minimal gunsmith skills. Also needs to be a "modernish" fire arm that can handle the higher pressures of modern ammo. The higher capacity mags seem to be an issue in 06 not so much with the VEPR and PSL.
Here is what I have found in 06. Civilian Browning BAR and the new Remington Semiautomatic that looks promising. On the used market I feel comfortable with the price points. However, I found a little blurb about high capacity magazines for the Browning but not enough to feel comfortable going that route and I have seen nothing about high capacity mags for the new Remington. Is there anything else I am missing and should be looking at?
In the 54r caliber there is the PSL and the VEPR. In this caliber I am leaning towards the VEPR as I find they are on average more accurate than the PSL's. Also there is a question of 10 round plus mags for the VEPR. But, if I found the right deal on a good PSL, I probably would be just slightly less happy with the PSL over the VEPR. Now all of this I am saying about the VEPR vs. PSL is just what I info I have gleamed from the Internet research I have done. Are there any other options out there I am not thinking of or haven't been able to find yet? I have heard whispers of a Saiga in 54r caliber but I can't find much credibility in that, yet.
So, with my "requirements" in mind is there something out there I am missing in either caliber that would be in the say sub $1000 range. I am a sucker for a good deal also, but it must be a quality good deal also. I am planning to stick with these two calibers with the exception that if I really can't find the right combo, I will consider a factory AR10 as a last resort for a SAPR.
I am looking for any info and advice you guys may have for me on the topic. I want to say this is a great forum and I truly enjoy my time here and feel it is always well spent. Thank you so much for your help and advice this is a great community and I expect to spend long time enjoying it.
I hope I have provided enough info to allow you guys to help me out.
Thanks again.
Here is a little background. With my little bit of free time last week, I spent a couple of hours looking for a 30-06 Semi-Automatic Precision Rifle. I also learned about PSL's and VEPR's in 7.62x54r and other various calibers. I am looking to stick with these two calibers as I already have them in my inventory and I am likely not going away from them. I have three mosins and about 1000 rounds for them and it is easy to come by much more if I want to, I have my 700 in 06 and about 1500 rounds for it. My father in-law also has a reloading set up and will hopefully be teaching me to reload in the fall. Within his possession he has maybe 25,000 to 50,000 30 caliber bullets and the components to reload at least 10,000 rounds of 06 and possibly much more I am trying to be conservative with my estimations of what he showed me a few months back, and he doesn't even have an 06 anymore.
So, this isn't an immediate purchase I am trying to gather some more info. If I could pick one up somehow before November that would be great, but unlikely as I don't have the funds or the trading fodder at the moment to get me there.
Here are my basic requirements. Primary purpose SHTF vehicle stopping SAPR in 30-06 or 7.62x54r not primary weapon more of a stationary semi portable weapon, weight is not a huge issue but it must be easy portable by one person with ammo in normal conditions, decent accuracy out to 4-600 yards (but primary use would be within say 200 yards) I am going to throw 2MOA out there but not a deal breaker as my skills barely let me hit 2 MOA with a bolt action at this point.. I would like the option of at least 10 round detachable box magazines, easy optics mounting ability, and easily upgraded and repaired. I want something I can work on with minimal gunsmith skills. Also needs to be a "modernish" fire arm that can handle the higher pressures of modern ammo. The higher capacity mags seem to be an issue in 06 not so much with the VEPR and PSL.
Here is what I have found in 06. Civilian Browning BAR and the new Remington Semiautomatic that looks promising. On the used market I feel comfortable with the price points. However, I found a little blurb about high capacity magazines for the Browning but not enough to feel comfortable going that route and I have seen nothing about high capacity mags for the new Remington. Is there anything else I am missing and should be looking at?
In the 54r caliber there is the PSL and the VEPR. In this caliber I am leaning towards the VEPR as I find they are on average more accurate than the PSL's. Also there is a question of 10 round plus mags for the VEPR. But, if I found the right deal on a good PSL, I probably would be just slightly less happy with the PSL over the VEPR. Now all of this I am saying about the VEPR vs. PSL is just what I info I have gleamed from the Internet research I have done. Are there any other options out there I am not thinking of or haven't been able to find yet? I have heard whispers of a Saiga in 54r caliber but I can't find much credibility in that, yet.
So, with my "requirements" in mind is there something out there I am missing in either caliber that would be in the say sub $1000 range. I am a sucker for a good deal also, but it must be a quality good deal also. I am planning to stick with these two calibers with the exception that if I really can't find the right combo, I will consider a factory AR10 as a last resort for a SAPR.
I am looking for any info and advice you guys may have for me on the topic. I want to say this is a great forum and I truly enjoy my time here and feel it is always well spent. Thank you so much for your help and advice this is a great community and I expect to spend long time enjoying it.
I hope I have provided enough info to allow you guys to help me out.
Thanks again.