PSA lowers 100 bucks

Sakir_har · Jul 11, 2023

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar15-complete-classic-stealth-lower.html

they have it in FDE and gray as well for the same 99.99

Gunbuggy · Jul 11, 2023

Jesus christ. Psa is awesome

Sakir_har · Jul 12, 2023

Yeah if I hadn't just ordered some last sale I would have this sale lol

JM Browning · Jul 14, 2023

You can buy Wilcon Combat lowers for the same money and much better quality from PSA

Gunbuggy · Jul 14, 2023

JM Browning said:
You can buy Wilcon Combat lowers for the same money and much better quality from PSA

You can't buy a complete wilson combat lower for 100 bucks.

Also what makes their lower better quality? Is it the bald eagle on the side of the lower?

Oro · Jul 16, 2023

No, you can't get a built WC lower for $100. But you can get a bare one for $50, which is a great deal:

https://wilsoncombat.com/receiver-ar-15-lower-forged-mil-spec-cosmetic-blem.html

The difference is substantial w/a basic PSA lower. It is vastly tighter and on the inside of spec if you want a premium build. I have bare ones of each on hand right now. I've test fit quite a few parts and uppers in each and it's not close on the quality. I don't have a big issue w/ Anderson or PSA receivers, and own some of each (two of each to be precise). But it's NOT the same as a premium receiver held to tighter tolerances for a better build in competent hands.

Gunbuggy · Jul 16, 2023

Oro said:
No, you can't get a built WC lower for $100. But you can get a bare one for $50, which is a great deal:

https://wilsoncombat.com/receiver-ar-15-lower-forged-mil-spec-cosmetic-blem.html

The difference is substantial w/a basic PSA lower. It is vastly tighter and on the inside of spec if you want a premium build. I have bare ones of each on hand right now. I've test fit quite a few parts and uppers in each and it's not close on the quality. I don't have a big issue w/ Anderson or PSA receivers, and own some of each (two of each to be precise). But it's NOT the same as a premium receiver held to tighter tolerances for a better build in competent hands.

I'd be curious to see your results. Also would be curious to see who manufactures the wilson lowers.

You'd be shocked at which companies use the same manufacturer.....

Oro · Jul 16, 2023

Gunbuggy said:
I'd be curious to see your results. Also would be curious to see who manufactures the wilson lowers.

You'd be shocked at which companies use the same manufacturer.....

The results are outlined above.

Wilson manufactures their receivers, not anyone else. This they state plainly. There are a few common suppliers of castings. That is not the same as manufacturing a finished product. That would be like saying a Fiat and a Ferrari are the same level, because they buy steel from the same foundry.

Gunbuggy · Jul 17, 2023

Oro said:
The results are outlined above.

Wilson manufactures their receivers, not anyone else. This they state plainly. There are a few common suppliers of castings. That is not the same as manufacturing a finished product. That would be like saying a Fiat and a Ferrari are the same level, because they buy steel from the same foundry.

Right, I am saying I'd like to see it for myself. I guarantee you can't notice a difference between a milspec psa lower and a milspec Wilson lower as far as fitment. Maybe a better anodizing and cleaner roll mark yeah.

Psa's mil spec lowers are mfg by aero and their uppers by anchor Harvey.
Both have been making receivers a lot longer than Wilson.

Oro · Jul 17, 2023

Gunbuggy said:
…I guarantee you can't notice a difference between a milspec psa lower and a milspec Wilson lower as far as fitment. Maybe a better anodizing and cleaner roll mark yeah.

Psa's mil spec lowers are mfg by aero and their uppers by anchor Harvey.
Both have been making receivers a lot longer than…

Lol, I can guarantee you are wrong. You can measure it - give it a try. I can tell by your post you are not very experienced with firearms manufacturing or how ARs are generally built- so let's step back and give a factual review.

- Wilson Combat has been machining receives and making firearms longer than Aero has been in the gun business.
- Also ditto with WC - they have been at it longer than PSA has been in business - much, much longer than pSA has been making their own firearms. - Anchor Harvey does not manufacture firearms at all. They provide raw castings that others use.

I believe you have a very mistaken understanding of how manufacturing a firearm works, wrt cast, machining, finishing, and then final assembly of parts.

Gunbuggy · Jul 17, 2023

Oro said:
Lol, I can guarantee you are wrong. You can measure it - give it a try. I can tell by your post you are not very experienced with firearms manufacturing or how ARs are generally built- so let's step back and give a factual review.

- Wilson Combat has been machining receives and making firearms longer than Aero has been in the gun business.
- Also ditto with WC - they have been at it longer than PSA has been in business - much, much longer than pSA has been making their own firearms. - Anchor Harvey does not manufacture firearms at all. They provide raw castings that others use.

I believe you have a very mistaken understanding of how manufacturing a firearm works, wrt cast, machining, finishing, and then final assembly of parts.

You just misquoted everything I said.

I never said anchor Harvey manufactures firearms. They manufacture forgings for people to use in their uppers (colt / psa just to namr a few off top of head) figured I'd clear that up for you since you are thinking I'm saying something I'm not.

Also i never said WC has been manufactirong FIREARMS less than aero. I said Wilson combat has not been making AR15 receivers longer than aero. You're stupid to think that. Wilson just recently got into the AR game. Why don't you look at their posts from when they announced they were getting into ARs. It was not long ago lol. Keep up buddy. Read before you type.

I get it, people need to justify their purchases so they get on the internet and try to make themselves feel better. I have expensive ARs I have KAC's and a few BCMs and a few older colts, a few geisseles, that I've paid a lot of money for. I also have a bunch of psa' and a few aeros. Every time I've thrown an expensive upper on a PSA lower I've had no fitment issues or ever felt like "oh weird this things out of spec" I've only ever felt out of spec with an anderson lower. Before the brace law I would always be swapping lowers Around so I didn't have to apply for a travel request from ATF just to go to work across the bridge with my sbr.

Also, I can bet on it that I know a lot more about firearm manufacturing than you do.

Oro · Jul 17, 2023

- You stated yourself AH was in the manufacturing business. Direct quote above. You have now managed to misquote yourself.

- Your pedantics aside, WC has been in the AR manufacturing business longer than Aero or PSA. Longevity doesn't prove absolute excellence. But it goes to accuracy and honesty when basic facts can't be managed.

- I have used far more PSA and Aero lowers over time than WC both in by business and personal weapons. No one here is trying to justify anything; it is utter foolishness to rant about name brands - or attack ones you don't know - without real experience or based on dollar prices.

The one thing we do know, is you know demonstrably less than anyone else in the thread about firearms manufacturing. Let's try to stick to facts and not be childishly insulting and petty. Fortunately, the forum has an "ignore" feature for the petulantly inclined.