Price of ammunition in yUK.....

[Colts4me]

How about suppressors, are they allowed?

 

[tac]

I've answered this a few times in the last couple of day, but yes, they are. No Federal tax either. Just have to have the 'tick' on the FAC and you're good to go - one at a time though.

yUK being the small place it is, there are many places where they are compulsory, due to the chance of upsetting livestock and so on. Remember that here we also do a LOT of night-shooting, and I mean a LOT. One of my acquaintances shot an average of 2.4 foxes a night for an entire year - one night he got seven. A lot of farmers/landowners insist that you have one, and can make it a condition of access to their land. Remember that here in UK somebody or something owns EVERY bit of land there is. Crown land, like we have in Canada, for instance, is not usually accessible to anybody, but Ministry of Defence land is accessible - three of our .50cal ranges belong to the Army.

You can buy a moderator for your sub-12 ft lb air rifle without any paperwork, but if you want to put it on your >12 ft lb air rifle, it must be on your FAC, along with your >12 ft lb air rifle.

We can have ANY kind of night vision device, passive or active - the limit is how much you are willing to pay, bearing in mind that most of them are actually made right here in yUK.

tac

 

[Colts4me]

Would you mind giving the name of the most popular suppressor manufacturer so I can look them up?

 

[Who The F R U]

Hey Tac-
Do you know this Club Patch ? Norther Monkeys.

 

[tac]

Would you mind giving the name of the most popular suppressor manufacturer so I can look them up?

Wildcat Moderators, A-Tec, MACCTECC, Stalon, ASE, Roedale, DPT, SAK, there are no doubt more....

tac

 

[tac]

Hey Tac-
Do you know this Club Patch ? Norther Monkeys.

View attachment 454719

Nope, sorry. The Barrett is a semi-auto, so it's not likely to be in the UK.

tac

 

[Colts4me]

Wildcat Moderators, A-Tec, MACCTECC, Stalon, ASE, Roedale, DPT, SAK, there are no doubt more....

tac

Thank you.

 

[Who The F R U]

Nope, sorry. The Barrett is a semi-auto, so it's not likely to be in the UK.

tac

It's the Northern Monkey's club in the UK.
I got the Patch from Major Darby a couple of years ago.

 

[tac]

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Northern Monkey is a HFT club in the North of England. The Barratt must be yours since the only Barratts in this country are bolt-action.

tac

 

[tac]

Here is a short list of a some of the clubs on mainland yUK -

This list is by courtesy of Target Shooter Magazine - The FREE monthy online magazine for the UK and international target shooting enthusiast.
Click here...

Associations and Federations Country-Region Link
European Rimfire and Air Rifle Benchrest Shooting Federation Europe Click here...
World Rimfire and Air Rifle Benchrest Federation International Click here...
NRA United Kingdom Click here...
NASRPC Ireland Click here...
NSRA United Kingdom Click here...
MLAGB United Kingdom Click here...
UKBRA United Kingdom
UKBR22 United Kingdom
Great Britain F-Class Association United Kingdom Click here...
Club Name County-Region Link
Portishead Shooting Club Avon - Somerset <broken link removed>
Burnham Rifle Club Avon - Somerset Click here...
Frome & District Pistol Club Avon, Somerset - Wiltshire Click here...
The Bedfordshire Country Rifle & Pistol Association Bedfordshire Click here...
Old Windsor Rifle & Pistol Club Berkshire Click here...
Marlow Rifle & Pistol Club Berkshire, Buckinghamshire - Oxfordshire Click here...
Burnham Target Shooting Club Buckinghamshire - Berkshire <broken link removed>
Shepreth Air Gun Club Cambridgeshire
Phoenix Shooters Association Cheshire Click here...
Wrexham & District Rifle & Pistol Club Clwyd <broken link removed>
Newquay Rifle & Pistol Club Cornwall Click here...
Phoenix Shooting Club Croydon
Cumberland News Rifle Club Cumbria - Carlisle Click here...
Tavistock Minature Rifle Club Devon
Tamar Rangers Rifle Club Devon - Cornwall Click here...
Christchurch Gun Club Dorset Click here...
Shield Gun Club Dorset
Ferndown Gun Club Dorset Click here...
Dorchester Rifle & Pistol Club Dorset Click here...
Auckland & District Gun Club Durham Click here...
Hurworth Air Gun Club Durham, Darlington - Tees Valley Click here...
Dundee Rifle & Pistol Club Dundee - Scotland Click here...
Mayfair Shooting Centre Tyne and Wear Click here...
Haverfordwest Target Shooting Club Dyfed Click here...
Broadclyst Rifle Club Essex
Maldon and District Air Rifle Club Essex <broken link removed>
Itchen Valley Shooting Club Hampshire Click here...
Fareham Rifle & Pistol Club Hampshire - Fareham Click here...
Meon Valley Airgun Club Hampshire - Hambledon Click here...
Aldershot Rifle & Pistol Club Hampshire - Surrey Click here...
Portsmouth City Rifle & Pistol Club Hampshire Click here...
Highfield Rifle & Pistol Club Hampshire <broken link removed>
Sigma Rifle & Pistol Club Hertfordshire Click here...
Lea Valley Air Gun Club Hertfordshire Click here...
Harpenden Air Weapons Club Hertfordshire <broken link removed>
Watford & District Hertfordshire - Watford, London
Bishop's Stortford (1944) Rifle Club Hertfordshire - Essex Click here...
East Barnet Shooting Club Hertfordshire - London Click here...
Tunbridge Wells Target Shooting Club Kent
Clyde Valley Pistol Club Lanarkshire - Scotland Click here...
Blackburn Rifle & Pistol Club Lancashire Click here...
Bolton Air Guns Society Lancashire Click here...
Bolton & NRP Shooting Club Lancashire Click here...
Holwell Rifle Club Leicestershire Click here...
Killingholme Full Bore Club Lincolnshire
North East Lincolnshire Target Club Lincolnshire - Grimsby <broken link removed>
Reepham Shooting Centre Lincolnshire - Lincoln <broken link removed>
Stock Exchange Rifle Club London Centre Click here...
GEC (Coventry) Rifle & Pistol Club Midlands
Cawdor Rifle & Gun Club Nairn - Scotland Click here...
Chinnor Rifle & Pistol Club Oxfordshire Click here...
Haverfordwest Target Shooting Club Pembrokeshire Click here...
Market Drayton Rifle Club Shropshire - Staffordshire Click here...
Box Rifle Club South East Gloucestershire
Beccles Rifle Club Suffolk Click here...
Bookham Rifle Club Surrey Click here...
Centurion Target Sports Club Surrey <broken link removed>
Surbiton Postal Rifle Club Surrey Click here...
Rustington & District Home Guard Rifle Club Surrey - Bisley Click here...
Croydon Rifle & Pistol Club Surrey - London <broken link removed>
Ford Rifle Ranges Sussex Click here...
Novio Magnum Pistol Club Sussex - Chichester Click here...
East Grinstead Target Shooting Club Sussex - East Grinstead Click here...
Chepstow Rifle Club Wales
Tondu Target Shooting Club Wales Click here...
North Wales Muzzle Loaders Association Wales - North
Llandudno & Colwyn Bay Marksmen Wales - North Click here...
Bangor & District Practical Rifle & Pistol Wales - North Click here...
Quarry Hunters Wales - South - Newbridge
Warwickshire SB Rifle & Pistol Association Warwickshire
8th Warwicks HGRC Warwickshire Click here...
Cosford Shooting Ground Warwickshire Click here...
Stourbridge old Edwardian Rifle Club West Midlands
Sutton Coldfield Rifle & Pistol Club West Midlands Click here...
Walton Lions Bell Target Club West Midlands Click here...
GEC (Coventry) Rifle & Pistol Club West Midlands - Coventry
Solihull Rifle & Pistol Club West Midlands - Warwickshire Click here...
Malvern Rifle & Pistol Club Worcestershire
SEECO Rifle & Pistol Club Reddich Worcestershire <broken link removed>
Aireborough Rifle & Revolver Club Yorkshire - Horsforth - Leeds Click here...
Scotton & Farnham R.C Yorkshire <broken link removed>
Umarex Boys Club Yorkshire - East
Beverley Target Club Yorkshire - East <broken link removed>
Ossett & District Rifle & Pistol Club Yorkshire - East Click here...
Keighley Rifle & Pistol Yorkshire - West <broken link removed>
Ilkley Rifle & pistol Club Yorkshire - West
PSSA Ltd (Diggle) Yorkshire Click here...

This is roughly one-third of the current number, and does not include the roughly 1500 clay grounds and 400+ airgun only clubs.

I'll see if I can find my original post on the VCRAI website - THAT has most of them.

tac

 

[KKG]

tac; To begin with, Thanks for posting. And, I for one certainly think that's got to be more Clubs than are in WA and OR and maybe ID combined. Awesome!!!

 

[tac]

Okay - there are currently just over 1200 gun clubs in the UK - NOT including clay or air.

The UK NRA was founded in 1859, and used to be located at Wimbledon [hence the name of the famous US range].

It is now based at Bisley in Surrey, along with the small-bore [.22RF] version - the NRSA. The principal patron of the NRA is HM The Queen, and NRSA the Duke of Edinburgh.

More details to come...

tac

 

[tac]

'Kay, ready for this?

2015 figures - nationwide -

Shotgun certificates - 580,653, covering 1,358,522 shotguns

FACs - 141,775, covering 451,131 Section 1 firearms, but not Section 5 [Prohibited] firearms - so few as to not need mentioning.

My own county - Cambridgeshire, a mostly rural farming locale -

Shotguns certificates - 30,644

FACs - 7576

That's 5% of the county population, BTW.

Figures from the Office of National Statistics.

tac

 

[KKG]

tac; I think you are going to be educating a few more people shortly. I'm currently at the WAC Gunshow in Puyallup and I have shown your post to a couple of folks. I they were under the same impression about the Laws there that so many people have talked about on this Forum. As always, Thanks for Posting. KKG

 

[tac]

Feel free to pass on the misery from over here........at least, pro tem, we can still shoot. After all, shooting sports in UK contribute over FIVE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR to the government coffers.

Shooting sports of all kinds are the fastest growing and safest of ALL participation sports in the yUK.

Here, we can have a FAC at FOURTEEN y/o. But cannot actually BUY a gun or ammunition until we are 17.

We can, and do, participate in international competition, particularly in clays, DTL and OT, from age 14, and have many European, Commonwealth and even world champions to prove it - male and female. Same with long-range BP rifle - we have our own dedicated BP ranges at Wedgenock where the wolrd championships are often held, and, of course, Bisley, with the 1200 yard Stickledown range for TR and F-TR.

tac

 

[CLT65]

I had a discussion with a friend a while back, and he expressed irritation about talk of gun control.

"People have been saying the Democrats want to take our guns for decades, and look at me; I went hunting recently with a gun. It's all baloney. They're not after our guns."

I told him he didn't have anything to worry about when we go the way of Great Britain and Australia. He'd still have his hunting rifle when to left gets their way. He'll have to register it and pay a little more for ammo, but otherwise no worries. He just shrugged. He's fine with that.

 

[tac]

It's not just Great Britain, it's the entire UK. And if you think that things are bad here, then you really need to examine the gun laws in the Republic of Ireland, where county police chief superintendents of the AGS [An Garda Siochána] are regularly in court for exceeding their remit, and bending rules to suit their own anti-gun agenda. A place where each gun is licensed, and where empties count as live rounds. A place where airgun pellets are classed as ammunition, and can only be bought on production of the airgun license, sometimes, thanks to the ****wits I mentioned above, 200 at a time. A place where there are less than FIFTY shooters permitted in law to carry out reloading, and that in a bunker, under guard, with fire-fighters standing by. A place the the 'bygod i don't like the look of dat 'ting' really counts against you, and where you cannot have a black powder-shooting ANYTHING.

Anyhow, I'm sure that you know the story about the man show said, 'when they came for the......etc'. Your democrat pal is him to a tee.

The one thing I remind my American acquaintances, sad though it is to have to do it, is the the RIGHT to bear arms etc is written into the founding document of the nation. In every other country of Earth that has documented possession of firearms, it is a PRIVILEGE for which the citizens/subjects have to pay.

tac

 

[CLT65]

It's interesting to me, the different laws and attitudes in various nations with somewhat similar cultures.

It's easy to understand oppressive gun control in corrupt, backwards, third-world nations, but what is it about the cultures in modern, free societies like England and Australia that people are so OK with it?

Of course most of them look at us in the U.S. and wonder why we put up with all the slaughter when we could have such a peaceful utopia by just banning guns.

I wondered if it was the rural/urban divide, but I just looked that up and the rural/urban percentages are very similar between the U.S. and the U.K..

It's interesting that in most states here any law abiding adult can buy a handgun or semiauto rifle, cash and carry. Concealed carry is no problem in most places, and many if not most rank and file police officers are pro-gun to one degree or another. In most states buying a machine gun or destructive device like a grenade launcher isn't much more regulated than buying a hunting rifle in the U.K..

I'm not try to make any point here, as I don't really have one. I just find the different cultural attitudes to be fascinating. What's perfectly reasonable and acceptable in one country is horrifying and unthinkable in another.

 

[tac]

Just to point out that we live in the USA for part of the year, so I'm well-acquainted with what goes on there, gun-wise. I also write extensively [and equally boringly, I'm told] on gunboards, sigforum, muzzleloadingforum, swissrifles, canadiangunnutz and a couple of other US-based fora, so I'm continually updated with the ins and outs of legal acquisition and possession of firearms in the lower 48, as well as the GWN.

I think you'll find, overall, that NONE of those S***hole nations you hinted at, corrupt, backwards and Third-World, have ANY kind of regulation of firearms, except to note that if you DON'T have one, or more, by the time you're twelve years old, you are some kind of a klutz.

Remember to, that neither the UK, nor Australia, whose laws follow closely on the heels of the Mother Country, have the RIGHT to gun ownership written into their Constitution or Founding Document, for the simple reason ta neither country HAS one to start with.

There's a lot more to it that that, but you live in a country where gun ownership is a RIGHT, and we ad the Aussies live in countries where gun ownership is a PRIVILEGE.

tac