No more Glocks?

[CamoDeafie]

Well factually...Glock is being sued by Baltimore, New Jersey, Minnesota, Chicago, and California, (at least) specifically because their design allows for modification to full auto. Aftermarket or not, these lawsuits are why they are changing.

If that's the standard going forward, and the lawsuits get going as opposed to being dismissed on the grounds that Glock didn't design their guns to be modified that way .. then what would stop these places from suing Colt, FN, Daniel Defense, and so forth because the AR design "allows" for modification to "full auto" by way of drilling that third pin, or having the pockets available for Lightning Links, Autosears, FRTs, Super Safeties, binary triggers?

 

[JoshR]

Well factually...Glock is being sued by Baltimore, New Jersey, Minnesota, Chicago, and California, (at least) specifically because their design allows for modification to full auto. Aftermarket or not, these lawsuits are why they are changing.

I believe you can add the City of Seattle to that list

 

[64MercurysRule]

I believe you can add the City of Seattle to that list

Probably because they are run by people like this .........

View: https://youtu.be/SbJlpKG-PBI?si=tlD3CoqUiGuUwfLS

 

[JoshR]

Probably because they are run by people like this .........

View: https://youtu.be/SbJlpKG-PBI?si=tlD3CoqUiGuUwfLS

I'll see your "Most Seattle Man" and raise you "2nd Most Seattle Men". I call this picture "The Belltown Lounge"

 

[wired]

Well factually...Glock is being sued by Baltimore, New Jersey, Minnesota, Chicago, and California, (at least) specifically because their design allows for modification to full auto. Aftermarket or not, these lawsuits are why they are changing.

Good luck with that. I can think of a dozen firearms off the top of my head that can be modified just as easily to run on full auto.

 

[nwslopoke]

Does the lawsuit have to show Glock had intent for criminal use of an aftermarket part sold online? Since Glock sells an expensive full auto model, does it make sense for them to allow a cheap modification?

 

[wired]

Does the lawsuit have to show Glock had intent for criminal use of an aftermarket part sold online? Since Glock sells an expensive full auto model, does it make sense for them to allow a cheap modification?

Glock has gone through great pains to make their Glock 18 very difficult to duplicate even if you had a G17 and a Glock 18 parts kit you couldnt make the 17 into an 18 without a lot of machine work. And like all criminal and civil cases it comes down to intent. Did Glock intend to make their pistols easy to convert with a non existent ( when they were designed ) aftermarket conversion unit? No.

 

[WillametteWill]

Good luck with that. I can think of a dozen firearms off the top of my head that can be modified just as easily to run on full auto.

But currently, the streets are not filled H&K, Walther, S&W, Colt, Springfield, Ruger, SCCY, Sig, Taurus, Beretta, FN, Mossberg, Browning, Kimber, CZ, Canik, Staccato, Kahr, or even Hi-Point with easy-to-produce, full auto devices.

Glocks are.

If ARs were as easy to modify as Glocks, they would be all over the place too. For some, I'm sure they are, but for the masses in the hood, no.

I'm not saying I think Glock did anything wrong, they intended to have their guns used with switches, or should be liable. But it is the risk you take. It seems to me that they are doing a pretty good job at damage control. But since you can compare them to how Sig handled their crisis, pretty much anything looks good.

 

[wired]

Ars are as easy to make into machine guns

 

[sobo]

Ars are as easy to make into machine guns

How so? Asking for a... well... a friend...

 

[wired]

How so? Asking for a... well... a friend...

the "coat hanger" or the DIAS. Not even counting the FRT because it's semi auto

 

[CamoDeafie]

How so? Asking for a... well... a friend...

the "coat hanger" or the DIAS. Not even counting the FRT because it's semi auto

Or drill third pin hole if the lower has full M16 cut pockets, which is why Colt did the sear block and also the different pocket in their lowers

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

the "coat hanger" or the DIAS. Not even counting the FRT because it's semi auto

The ATF right now . . .

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Or drill third pin hole if the lower has full M16 cut pockets, which is why Colt did the sear block and also the different pocket in their lowers

Or if you were on Arfcom back in the day, filing the firing pin shorter

 

[roseburger]

I remember the first time I put an AR together, what's this little guy for? Ohhhhhhhhhh......

 

[Knobgoblin]

Or if you were on Arfcom back in the day, filing the firing pin shorter

Constructive possession.
Circa 1993

 

[wired]

Or if you were on Arfcom back in the day, filing the firing pin shorter

File the sear

 

[nwslopoke]

Well it's a good thing for us, that there are no gun shops in high crime neighborhoods. Gun crime has virtually been eliminated since the early 2000s. Haven't you heard?

 

[roseburger]

Well it's a good thing for us, that there are no gun shops in high crime neighborhoods. Gun crime has virtually been eliminated since the early 2000s. Haven't you heard?

What?!?!? I can't hear you over the Potland gunfire!

 

[CamoDeafie]

What?!?!? I can't hear you over the Potland gunfire!

That's just people celebrating the struggle against ICE and NG