New Springfield Echelon

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[TTSX]

Just another polymer 9. I'm not sure this offers anything at all to set it apart from the competition. Though I'll reserve further judgement for when I get one in my hands.

 

[BATTERY]

A low bore modular frame gun is a great idea. hopefully more manufacturers will realize we want options. "Glock" lol

 

[Member 34319]

Almost everything you need right there. Other than it not accepting Glock mags!

 

[Koda]

Just another polymer 9. I'm not sure this offers anything at all to set it apart from the competition.

The modular FCU is a huge step up in design, and the milled slide accepts virtually all optics without adapter plates. These are huge improvements over the average polymer 9.

 

[TTSX]

The modular FCU is a huge step up in design, and the milled slide accepts virtually all optics without adapter plates. These are huge improvements over the average polymer 9.

P320 already does modularity and while the optics thing is nice, it's not really something I see as a huge advantage on the sales floor. Not everyone uses optics

 

[Member 34319]

Not everyone uses optics

Yet…

 

[Koda]

P320 already does modularity and while the optics thing is nice, it's not really something I see as a huge advantage on the sales floor. Not everyone uses optics

When the 320 came out I "just knew" its modularity would be the future of handguns. Its been a slow crawl I admit, maybe theres some patent that needed to expire or something. I feel the same way about handgun optics... like early rifle scopes many questiond those as well. I just think that these features have way more advantages and will catch on. The biggest hangup with optics has been the lack of standardizing how they mount. Springfield tackled that quite nicely until they do.
These are huge benefits to future gun owners and Springfield hit 2 nails home in one hammer.

 

[robertvarner]

P320 already does modularity and while the optics thing is nice, it's not really something I see as a huge advantage on the sales floor. Not everyone uses optics

If you're looking at the market and realize there are more and more young shooters out there that see an optic as "expected" when they buy a handgun, combined with the fact you can market to older-eyes that can't see the front sight as well, you are planning forward to success. And while you may not convince "old farts" that intuitively use actual sights to get into optics, we are not the future of firearm use beyond 2025.

I'm both an "old fart" and a red-dot-convert. It took some patience, but I'm now able to shoot better and quicker with a red dot.

Even Glock has changed lost of their handgun line to include MOS features, so there's something to it.

 

[TTSX]

Seems many of you disagree with me and think this gun is just the bee's knees so I'll let you guys buy em up. My statement was that I don't see an advantage on the sales floor and I'm sticking to it. It's just another polymer 9.

 

[Koda]

Seems many of you disagree with me and think this gun is just the bee's knees so I'll let you guys buy em up. My statement was that I don't see an advantage on the sales floor and I'm sticking to it. It's just another polymer 9.

I don't think it will be an overnight success but I agree with @robertvarner that this is the direction of younger future generation guns. Its harder for older/experienced gun owners to buy the latest greatest because we reach a point of being fully invested in a decent collection. Imagine if you were just starting out, can barely afford a nice gun and could only buy one... a modular design becomes way more attractive let alone one that accepts any optic.

 

[TTSX]

I don't think it will be an overnight success but I agree with @robertvarner that this is the direction of younger future generation guns. Its harder for older/experienced gun owners to buy the latest greatest because we reach a point of being fully invested in a decent collection. Imagine if you were just starting out, can barely afford a nice gun and could only buy one... a modular design becomes way more attractive let alone one that accepts any optic.

I guess the world has passed me by and I just don't see it

 

[Koda]

I guess the world has passed me by and I just don't see it

its ok I still carry a 1911 and only recently bought my first polymer 9 wunder gun.

 

[kmk1012]

I guess the world has passed me by and I just don't see it

It could be our aging eyes!

 

[yukster]

They should have priced it about $100 lower. That would put it in Glock range, where it would totally eat that their lunch, and make it so noticeably lower than the Sig 320 that anyone on the fence would probably go for the Springfield.

 

[asiparks]

I don't think it will be an overnight success but I agree with @robertvarner that this is the direction of younger future generation guns. Its harder for older/experienced gun owners to buy the latest greatest because we reach a point of being fully invested in a decent collection. Imagine if you were just starting out, can barely afford a nice gun and could only buy one... a modular design becomes way more attractive let alone one that accepts any optic.

^this.
If you're buying your first gun and you see yourself maybe sometime adding an optic, then a slide that accepts just about any without having to add plate is appealing. Sig has shown the appeal of modular Lego pistols and it's been a boon to aftermarket manufacturers too.

I heard/read somewhere that this has the mag catch come as part of the frame, so you could make a Glock, or 320 compatible version of the lower.

 

[Stomper]

we are not the future of firearm use beyond 2025.

Phhppttttt…. I fully expect to live until 2067, barring supersonically injected lead poisoning.

 

[BATTERY]

After shooting a few steel challenge matches I noticed the best iron sight shooter would usually place around 8th among the carry optics guys. This is true nationwide. "I checked scores" I fought the optics thing for years until recently. It's just so much faster.

 

[L84Cabo]

P320 already does modularity and while the optics thing is nice, it's not really something I see as a huge advantage on the sales floor. Not everyone uses optics

Yes, but the Echelon likely does not spontaneously pew like the P320 does.

*runs and hides behind the sofa from the P320 fan bois*

 

[Kruel J]

I wonder who they bought THAT design from.