looking at getting one of the 2. first off, yes I shoulda gotten one during rebate time but couldn't swindle it out of the wife then. The classic swat is 0.8lbs heavier, not much but its all on the front end. I might be slightly worried of the shorter gas piston they use on the pistols and patrols. Anyone have decent exposure to the pistol system and if they would recommend that or just get the longer setup? The patrol does feel very nicely balanced though. I guess if I was the type that wanted steadfast reliability I should get the longer one. But then again I daily drive my Merkur and not my Toyota so maybe I'm just backwards?