Need advice on hunting

[Bobbygun]

Too long didn't read.

Uh huh.

 

[Joel S]

Good question and thinking critically... As mentioned there are many studies on energy as a primary killing factor. You can also Google the energy killing myth etc and find various podcasts writers etc who who chat about it. In general it's just that we think about the imparting of energy in a wrong way. Also I've never seen dangerous game have a required energy only a required caliber size which if you're using say a bonded bullet or monometal makes sense because a larger caliber typically has more weight and therefore can penetrate deeper so it depends on what you're asking the bullet to do. And there are people who would claim that a 22.250 is a better caliber than a 30-06. Personally I prefer my 65 PRC but that's based upon the ranges I'm hunting.

Here's Ron Spomer talking about energy https://www.ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/killing-the-energy-killing-myth

And here's a video from an FBI trainer

View: https://youtu.be/jSq7d3GQo4I?si=UjJ7Pv38p0P9Pi7E


There are many others but the cool thing is we all get to make up our own mind on what we want to shoot. For the thread though as a hunter education instructor for newer hunters I would always recommend a smaller caliber to manage recoil better, be able to shoot more often, and from more positions.

Cheers!

 

[Koda]

Why do you believe there are minimum requirements to hunting dangerous game. To ignore the importance of energy impacted on game is to say that a 22-250 is a better deer rifle than a 30-06. I would like to see your evidence but on the surface I call BS

Those are caliber requirements not energy. Those laws vary by jurisdiction and were written before chronographs were practical to use. They are based on the opinions of fish and game managers at the time.

Thats my understanding of the history of caliber requirements but ive never heard of any that documented energy requirements.

 

[JRuby]

I will ask over on the African hunting forum and repost back.

 

[JRuby]

Firearms

Firearms

As per the Nature Conservation Ordinance No 4 of 1975:

No person shall use a revolver, pistol, or automatic firearm when hunting game or use a firearm of which the bullet has energy at the muzzle of the barrel which is lower than the following when hunting a species of the game indicated there under:

Small Game:
(e.g. Dik-Dik; Steenbok; Duiker; Springbok)
Minimum caliber: .243 (or equivalent caliber in mm)
Energy: 1350 Joule

Medium Game:
(e.g. Hartebeest; Oryx; Wildebeest; Kudu; Eland and all exotic species)
Minimum caliber: .270 (or equivalent caliber in mm)
Energy: 2700 Joule

Dangerous Game:
(e.g. Elephant; Hippo; Rhino; Buffalo; Lion)
Minimum caliber: .375 (or equivalent caliber in mm)
Energy: 5400 Joule

No solid point cartridge is allowed to be used as per the Nature Conservation Ordinance No 4 of 1975 on any other species than pachyderms (Elephant, Hippo, Rhino).

Handguns, Automatic and Semi-automatic weapons are prohibited in Namibia for trophy hunting purposes.

Hunters visiting Namibia may import 60 cartridges per caliber.

Legal Info - NAPHA

napha-namibia.com

 

[Joel S]

Interesting indeed thanks for pulling that up. I'll still disagree with it but it's a fascinating look!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Something to consider here in regards to tables , charts and such.....

Game animals can't read ...and don't care if they were shot with a .243 Winchester or a .404 Jeffery.
What does matter is that you the hunter match your firearm and cartridge to the game you are hunting...
As well as matching them to both your hunting and shooting skills.

Also something to consider....
No matter what you think / feel / know about firearms and such....
Look into the game laws / rules...and abide by those , since they will outweigh any sort of knowledge you have if things come to a court case / discussion with a game management officer.
Andy

 

[fordor40]

I give another vote for Tikka T3X stainless chambered in 30-06.

 

[FishnhuntOR]

I'm not sure if I'm too late to the party.
I hunt with a Tikka T3 stainless, 3006 with the limb saver 3.5 -10 scope with a CDS dial. Zeroed at 200. It's all I really need in Oregon. My daughter hunts with a 270, similar scope set up. My youngest son has a 6.5 Creedmore in Kimber Hunter with 3.5-10 CDS scope. All capable up to 500 yards. You don't need a magnum. My suggestion would be Ruger gen 2, Tikka's is the easy button or The CVA cascades is a lot of gun for the money as well. I would stick to your basic calibders like the 6.5, 270, 06 maybe 308. I don't think I would go bigger than a 3-15 scope because you won't have a wide field of view if you get into the thick timber. I would also suggest the same rifle in 223 so you can get a lot of trigger time in the off-season and work on your wind and elevation dialing.

I shoot heavier for caliber sirras game kings or tipped game kings
or liter monos like ttsx/Lrx