Jury Duty Again!

[Stomper]

As chief, I get to assign all the plebes rather than actually do the job so I'm good. By the way, are you looking for work?

Yeah, no. Cheifs lead by example.... they assist, and insist.



I'm gainfully (not painfully) employed, thank you.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Would it be THIS hat, by chance?

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LOL....

That one they will just get mad and tell you to take it off, THIS is the one if you want

 

[Member 361]

Yeah, no. Cheifs lead by example.... they assist, and insist.



I'm gainfully (not painfully) employed, thank you.

Ok. Well, if you find yourself a victim of the current budget cuts, let me know. I'm sure we can find something for you back stage.

 

[L84Cabo]

At least half a dozen times for regular and now they seem to have my name for Federal court. I've served on three juries. One was a pedophile case. It was NOT a good time. I know people who have never been to jury duty even once. They need a more equitable way how they select people.

 

[gunnoob75]

Jury duty is so important. Not just because it's, unfortunately, the only way to hold people accountable criminally but also because it's the only way to hold the courts accountable.

Unfortunately Liberty minded Americans are a drop in the bucket, but in theory we could protect people from activist judges and rogue prosecutors by educating the jury pool. It's a really tall order, though.

Most times I just hear "He's guilty, throw the book at him." People have no idea how much damage this has done to the judicial system of America.

 

[raftman]

I'm not sure you'd feel that way as Chief Fluffer....

I think a lot people might miss the legit philosophical depth of this statement.

In "Paradise Lost", 17th Century poet John Milton struggled to make sense of Lucifer's rebellion against God by positing that it's perhaps better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven… all of which is completely demolished by "Yeah but what if you've gotta touch another dude's junk?" It's brilliant.

 

[P7M13]

Twice in Marion county, excused by the defense during jury selection.
Twice in Washington county. Made it to jury selection once, and just before they were to challenge us, we were told to return to the waiting room -- the perp copped a plea. It's been a few years, I suspect I'm due again.

If I'm on an HOA case, I'm against the HOA full stop. Feck those guys and everyone who looks like those guys.

Your HOA must have taken pro-tips from mine. I'm waiting on a reprimand letter because I stained my fence without their permission. (never mind that it's smurf blue)

 

[po18guy]

I have been called for the 10th time in Cowlitz County. I know it's supposed to be random but there have got to be more people in this county so they shouldn't need me every couple of years. Anyone else been this lucky? I have never met a person that has been called more than twice in their lifetime. This will be number 13 for me as I was called three times in another state long ago.

All of the illegals who are registered to vote are suddenly not lining up.

 

[Mikej]

My mind ponders.......Just how, does DEI affect the whole jury duty thing, in our west Coast states?

 

[CamoDeafie]

My mind ponders.......Just how, does DEI affect the whole jury duty thing, in our west Coast states?

Depends.

Here's the thing though, it seems the Courts in Oregon by and large, would rather not pay for ASL interpreters but more likely Spanish interpreters. Once I've gotten an Spanish interpreter for a State related meeting because they assumed that my request for interpreter meant I spoke Spanish

I've also run into issues where State Depts don't want to set up in-person meetings with ASL interpretation because it either costs too much, or they need to get one 2-6 months in advance, preferring Zoom type meetings with video relay interpreters

Even hospitals would prefer using video relay interpreters but I am not a fan of that because it's too easy to have miscommunication mishaps

Edit so it's not that "inclusive" to refuse to fully accommodate clients who don't speak English or Spanish

 

[Member 361]

My mind ponders.......Just how, does DEI affect the whole jury duty thing, in our west Coast states?

Well...... I am DEI's worst nightmare and they still want me.

 

[Mikej]

Depends.

Here's the thing though, it seems the Courts in Oregon by and large, would rather not pay for ASL interpreters but more likely Spanish interpreters. Once I've gotten an Spanish interpreter for a State related meeting because they assumed that my request for interpreter meant I spoke Spanish

I've also run into issues where State Depts don't want to set up in-person meetings with ASL interpretation because it either costs too much, or they need to get one 2-6 months in advance, preferring Zoom type meetings with video relay interpreters

Even hospitals would prefer using video relay interpreters but I am not a fan of that because it's too easy to have miscommunication mishaps

Edit so it's not that "inclusive" to refuse to fully accommodate clients who don't speak English or Spanish

Interesting. I was thinking not so much disabilities, that is not saying that I see you as disabled. Many years ago, junior high age, we had a hearing impaired kid in our church group and he was just like the rest of us. We just made sure to slow down a bit and make sure he could see lips. I was thinking if in jury selection, and crime punishment, if they are going to make sure that the punishment is DEI approved? What that would mean, I have no idea. But DEI is still alive and well in our states here on the west Coast.

Edit: I did jury duty ONCE. I thought it was fascinating. I didn't get picked for the one case I was considered for. It wasn't uncomfortable for the hours spent at the courthouse in downtown Portland. It was a bicycle/car injury law suit. But now way in he!! would I want to go do it again! Wifey is going to be calling in on May 5th to see if she need to go. I hope she does. Everyone ought to experience it once, at least.

 

[thorborg]

Five, over my life.
I've sat on the wood waiting bench four times but was never selected.
Once I was called before I had to report saying the issue had been settled.
Three of the previous times was within four or five years I recall, and was when I was working long hours on a deadline project making it irritatingly inconvenient. One of those my employer wrote to them saying I was needed out of state and was reprieved, but only via an extension for six months where I was again selected to appear.

 

[Grumpy 1]

Got called in once in Washington county for a murder trial. Everybody with half a brain knew the son was guilty of killing his mom. The defense passes out a questionnaire which I filled out. I was not chosen for jury duty probably because of my answers.

Question: Do you think people should own firearms ?
Answer : Yes, I believe every should be armed ?

Question: Do you believe in the death penalty ?
Answer : Yes, an eye for an eye.

I never heard back from anyone.

 

[salmon creek gary]

Got summoned a few times in San Diego and was never selected, perhaps because of my military service and/or LEO experience. Long since retired and very interested, I'd love to serve, especially for a week of grand jury.

Call me!

I've also had military & LEO experience. Those magic words got me dismissed twice while I was living in SoCal. But on a third occasion, I ended up seated on the jury because both sides had already used up their preemptory challenges before I was even questioned.

Since moving to Clark County in 2010, I've received four summons letters, but wasn't even called to report for three of those occasions. Last year, the county summarily cancelled my fourth jury summons after getting my juror response form, maybe because I'd written, "More than healthy enough to serve, but a bit hard of hearing and also at an age (nearly 80) when naps happen involuntarily".

 

[WAYNO]

I have been called twice in two months. I'm over 70, so I've asked to be excused, but they keep trying.

The previous time, I asked to be excused, online. The form and questions were extensive, and many questions were prying, in nature. This time, just yesterday, I phoned in to be excused. All of ten seconds later, with zero questions of any kind, the lady said "okay, you're excused".



There's a lesson here.

 

[P7M13]

My mind ponders.......Just how, does DEI affect the whole jury duty thing, in our west Coast states?

My observation of the Marion County courthouse from 1990 through 2008 is that DEI has been in full effect there the entire time.
Ex was an attorney.

 

[WAYNO]

My mind ponders.......Just how, does DEI affect the whole jury duty thing, in our west Coast states?

Everything... Anything... can affect the outcome of a trial and cause a mistrial.

 

[sobo]

Five summons for me, and seated four times:

• First time was in the early '90s in Benton County, just a couple of years after moving here. Pedophile case. Was challenged out during voir dire. Don't know if was peremptory or for cause, but I was excused after answering some questions from the defense attorney
• Three times in Yakima County in the early 2000s. I was selected as jury foreman for all three trials. One was a DV case, another was a Resisting Arrest/Assault on an Officer case, and I don't recall the third one anymore. I do recall that we "hung" every defendant in each of those three cases. I also recall that the woman in the DV case should have been prosecuted for fraud. It came out during trial that she was defrauding CPS by receiving payments for kids she did not even have. But I was told by the prosecution (in a sidebar during our deliberations) that that was not the charge we were supposed to be deliberating. So, then I asked the prosecutor when she was going to be charged for bilking the state out of our tax money, but I never got an answer...
• Fifth time was just last week, back in Benton County again. I was once again selected as jury foreman. This was a criminal Indecent Exposure case. The "star witness" for the prosecution was lying her pants off (no pun intended) and was completely not credible, and her boyfriend was useless as a witness. And what she said she could see, from where she said she could see it, was impossible unless she had X-ray vision. Just not possible. We wondered during deliberations how the City even brought this case, it was so fantastically unbelievable. We acquitted the defendant, who was pro se.

So, my batting stats are:

• 800 for getting seated
• 1000 for being jury foreman (after being seated 4 times)
• 750 for hanging the defendant (after being seated 4 times)

 

[raftman]

I must be undesirable as a potential juror. The one time I actually had to show up to the courthouse, we all filled out our questionnaires, then they had us watch the jury instruction video, which I guess gave them time to review the questionnaires. After the video ended, I was among the first to be dismissed.