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Hello everyone. My wife’s uncle recently passed and we inherited some firearms that we will most likely sell. But most of these are way outside my wheelhouse as far as seeing how much they’re worth. Hopefully someone can help. Here’s what I have:

Springfield M1 Garand .30-06
Springfield 1903 .30-06
Winchester Model 94 .30 WCF
Argentinian Mauser 1909 7.65x53mm with Bayonet - Unfired
Winchester Model 1890 .22 Short

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1903 is $600-750. It is a mixmaster and some parts have been refinished. Rear sight ladder slide is banged up. The C stock adds valuable if there is no cracks. From the photo it looks like a big crack on left side. There is one locally for sale at a gun shop in really good shape with a C stock and a few mixed parts for asking price of $850.

The Garand looks to be a rewelded receiver from the discolored area on the right side. Can’t see the left side well enough to confirm. Parts have been all been blued. If rewelded receiver $250-400 since it is only worth the sum of the other parts and bluing really hurts the value of the parts. If the receiver is not welded, $600-750. Welded receivers are very unsafe to shoot.

I will be watching for your ad if you sell the garand here and it has a welded receiver. I would be interested in it as a wall hanger. I think the blued parts would look good displayed above my book shelves and it is still fully functional to show people how the action works. If you decided to sell it, pm me.
 
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1903 is $600-750. It is a mixmaster and some parts have been refinished. Rear sight ladder slide is banged up. The C stock adds valuable if there is no cracks. From the photo it looks like a big crack on left side. There is one locally for sale at a gun shop in really good shape with a C stock and a few mixed parts for asking price of $850.

The Garand looks to be a rewelded receiver from the discolored area on the right side. Can’t see the left side well enough to confirm. Parts have been all been blued. If rewelded receiver $250-400 since it is only worth the sum of the other parts and bluing really hurts the value of the parts. If the receiver is not welded, $600-750. Welded receivers are very unsafe to shoot.

I will be watching for your ad if you sell the garand here and it has a welded receiver. I would be interested in it as a wall hanger. I think the blued parts would look good displayed above my book shelves and it is still fully functional to show people how the action works. If you decided to sell it, pm me.

I watched a fellow at the range uncase an M1 Garand Tanker Model. Curious, I stood behind him at a respectful distance. It blew up on the first shot with a bright yellow flash. He was okay, the rifle junk. His face was soot coated, his rifle in pieces. The rifle had a welded receiver.
 

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I watched a fellow at the range uncase an M1 Garand Tanker Model. Curious, I stood behind him at a respectful distance. It blew up on the first shot with a bright yellow flash. He was okay, the rifle junk. His face was soot coated, his rifle in pieces. The rifle had a welded receiver.
Wow. Sounds like he got lucky. I’ll probably just turn it into the police station and have them take care it. Thank you.
 
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A reweld M1 Garand can indeed be dangerous. Or it can be completely fine. It really depends who did the repair and how. Before military surplus was readily available many garands and other GI surplus were rewelds. And people reweld guns all the time. I've never heard of one exploding catastrophically personally, but i suppose it is possible, more likely it would develop a crack in the weld. You can also take the guns history into consideration, did your wifes uncle shoot it alot? If so that lends to it being safer to shoot. Id still have it tested though before you shot it.

That being said if you are wanting to just sell it, parting it out would be what I'd do or sell it as a display item as mentioned above. The desirability to the collector has been ruined, the bolt is reblued, looks like someone just sprayed some black enamel all over the receiver, etc. Even if it were a completely functional shooter, there are plenty of nice shooter grade M1 Garands available that are nicer then this one and would lack the questionably "dangerous" nature of the receiver.
 
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Wow. Sounds like he got lucky. I’ll probably just turn it into the police station and have them take care it. Thank you.

I hope you pulling our leg. If you are worried about liability of selling a welded garand receiver, deactivate it per ATF procedure then sell or donate it as an unfirable rifle. I would offer to deactivate it for you before you sold it to me. Or if you donated it, I would deactivate it for you. Be aware deactivated rifles still require a BGC when transferred, ATF still considers them firearms even though the can’t chamber or fire a cartridge.
 
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I hope you pulling our leg. If you are worried about liability of selling a welded garand receiver, deactivate it per ATF procedure then sell or donate it as an unfirable rifle. I would offer to deactivate it for you before you sold it to me. Or if you donated it, I would deactivate it for you. Be aware deactivated rifles still require a BGC when transferred, ATF still considers them firearms even though the can’t chamber or fire a cartridge.

Agreed, I never understood why people turn in guns to be destroyed. A few years ago i heard from a friend that an elderly man died and his wife brought down his licensed STG-44 to be destroyed, supposedly one of the officers convinced her of the value of the rifle and got her to sell it at auction.

Also i wasn't aware a demilled firearm required any BGC at all. I thought if it is properly demilled to BATFE specifications it is no longer considered a firearm.
 

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Well I do know the Garand belonged to my wife’s, uncle’s father who shot CMP matches with it. Along with a 1911 that I have as well. But all that being said, I definitely see the points of it being in crap condition. I’ll probably list it for $100 or so just to get rid of it.
 
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Also i wasn't aware a demilled firearm required any BGC at all. I thought if it is properly demilled to BATFE specifications it is no longer considered a firearm.

Demil is to cut the receiver apart multiple times.

Deactivate is to make it unusable but not cut it apart.

Welded garand receivers were demiled by cutting once. Did not work well since people could weld back two parts that had enough length. Now they say to cut multiple times angled across.

Deactivated rifles can be reactivated with special tools if the methods are not to destructive. To permanently deactivate you need to destroy the threads of the receiver by slotting the receiver there and welding, besides plugging and welding the chamber. Since many can be reactivated they are still considered firearms.
 
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Ah you are referring to registered Dewats
Demil is to cut the receiver apart multiple times.

Deactivate is to make it unusable but not cut it apart.

Welded garand receivers were demiled by cutting once. Did not work well since people could weld back two parts that had enough length. Now they say to cut multiple times angled across.

Deactivated rifles can be reactivated with special tools if the methods are not to destructive. To permanently deactivate you need to destroy the threads of the receiver by slotting the receiver there and welding, besides plugging and welding the chamber. Since many can be reactivated they are still considered firearms.

Thats what i had thought, thanks for the clarification.
 
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Well I do know the Garand belonged to my wife’s, uncle’s father who shot CMP matches with it. Along with a 1911 that I have as well. But all that being said, I definitely see the points of it being in crap condition. I’ll probably list it for $100 or so just to get rid of it.

If he made the presidents 100 shooting that Garand you need to have someone who knows Garands inspect it as it likely has more to it than can be seen in the photos. Even parade Garands brought $425 when they were available from CMP.
 
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Many old guns were deativated ,barrel plugged but visually left together for stage props .please dont destroy a piece of american history .
 

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What I think is weird is that the receiver was obviously refinished. But the shiny welded area was not. Unusual.
 
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What I think is weird is that the receiver was obviously refinished. But the shiny welded area was not. Unusual.

I'd pull the action from the stock, it will give you a better idea of whats going on with it. It may of cracked after being refinished. Say if he had decided to shoot commercial 30-06 in it, which is hard on the gun because they were designed to handle lighter military loads, it could cause a fracture and have just been repaired in that area.
 

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I'd pull the action from the stock, it will give you a better idea of whats going on with it. It may of cracked after being refinished. Say if he had decided to shoot commercial 30-06 in it, which is hard on the gun because they were designed to handle lighter military loads, it could cause a fracture and have just been repaired in that area.

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