India and Pakistan has kicked off

mrblond · May 6, 2025

India launches strikes on terrorist camps in Pakistan

India attacked “terrorist infrastructure" in neighboring Pakistan on Wednesday and two of its occupied territories, officials said.

www.foxnews.com

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWFzoJ7I-A

obesechess · May 6, 2025

This has been simmering for as much of my adult life as I can remember. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, otherwise I worry this gets really ugly really fast - both China and the US have been forging stronger ties with India, but Pakistan is also a key ally of the US in the region, to say nothing of both countries being nuclear powers with large standing armies.

CountryGent · May 6, 2025

I couldn't help but think of an older article published by Scientific American: South Asian Threat? Local Nuclear War = Global Suffering

monkeybutler · May 6, 2025

Watching al jazeera. Pakistani official claiming India stated it would intentionally hit civilian targets, and did so. Ummkay. She also called India a rogue state, which is pretty amusing coming from a Pakistani government gal. She is hot, though.

Stomper · May 6, 2025

obesechess said:
This has been simmering for as much of my adult life as I can remember. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, otherwise I worry this gets really ugly really fast - both China and the US have been forging stronger ties with India, but Pakistan is also a key ally of the US in the region, to say nothing of both countries being nuclear powers with large standing armies.

Pakistan is the best friend money can buy....

aflineman · May 6, 2025

The more worrying part for me is India moving to block off the water to Pakistan. Maybe it is just a ploy for now, but could really escalate.

Ura-Ki · May 6, 2025

Stomper said:
Pakistan is the best friend money can buy....

Wha,...............You obviously forgot Turkey in your haste, they have been, hands down, the very best friend we could ever afford!

mrblond · May 6, 2025

they got a live cam going, you are hearing and seeing the strikes

TTSX · May 6, 2025

So is China/Taiwan next? What about USA/Canada? Or USA/Mexico? Or USA/USA?

CamoDeafie · May 6, 2025

Well. Guess all those call centers and product/tech support jobs will come back to a country not currently engaged in warfare :s0140:

3MTA3 · May 6, 2025

I read something somewhere once about wars and rumors of wars. Hope things simmer down in lots of places, but I'm not holding my breath.

3MTA3 · May 6, 2025

obesechess said:
This has been simmering for as much of my adult life as I can remember. Hopefully cooler heads prevail, otherwise I worry this gets really ugly really fast - both China and the US have been forging stronger ties with India, but Pakistan is also a key ally of the US in the region, to say nothing of both countries being nuclear powers with large standing armies.

India and China have armed troops facing at each other over a border dispute. India's economic rise worries China while their own economy was faltering even before the tariffs. I would expect China to take advantage of the hostilities to seize land and provide aid to Pakistan so long as key industrial sites and ports somehow get severely damaged.

VinnieBoomBah · May 6, 2025

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-V1t0PLQ2E

Certaindeaf · May 6, 2025

I refuse to say pockiston, preferring the traditional pakistan.
sue me

NeoBlackdog · May 7, 2025

mrblond said:
they got a live cam going, you are hearing and seeing the strikes

Link?

Member 45541 · May 7, 2025

obesechess · May 7, 2025

3MTA3 said:
India and China have armed troops facing at each other over a border dispute. India's economic rise worries China while their own economy was faltering even before the tariffs. I would expect China to take advantage of the hostilities to seize land and provide aid to Pakistan so long as key industrial sites and ports somehow get severely damaged.

Thanks for the correction, you're right - I knew Modi and Xi had sort of been trying to normalize relationships but I'd underestimated how fraught the relationship had been beforehand, and had missed how much more closely the Chinese government was working with Pakistan under Xi. My recollection is that Trump and Modi have a very good relationship, which in my mind runs the risk of this turning into a proxy war if cooler heads don't prevail. I confess that it's not an area of the Middle East I do as much reading on as I should, though.

CamoDeafie · May 7, 2025

obesechess said:
. I confess that it's not an area of the Middle East I do as much reading on as I should, though.

Pakistan is not Middle East. Nor is Afghanistan. Afghanistan is South West Asia, Pakistan is West Asia though it does share a border with Iran. Generally, Iran is considered the easternmost Middle Eastern country.

Some people consider a Greater Middle East to include Pakistan, Afghanistan, North Africa(all the way out to Morocco and Gibraltar Strait) in addition to the usual Middle East countries (Arabian peninsula, Levant, Egypt, Iraq/Iran, Turkey)