I'm reaching my limit with Oregon...

[Jcon268]

I share the same faith as my father. In no way will it erase the grief but I believe with my entire heart that I will see him again. It calms me a little knowing where we both will be after passing. But I try to take advantage of as much time as we have together on this earth. This life passes quickly.

I've struggled with my faith over the years but I felt a certain calm when he actually passed. I held his hand through the entire thing. I knew where he had gone to and no suffering at all. It doesn't erase the grief because we are just humans living down here and we can still feel all the pain. But we all die one day, we can't start new until we let go here.

 

[Camelfilter]

Sorry for your loss! Lost my dad in '20, we're taking care of my Mom. Hadn't given any "serious" thoughts towards moving out of Oregon, primarily due to salaries & the logistic headaches of a long distance move.

Just the "this State is circling the drain" type thoughts.

If you had given serious thoughts towards an out of State move before your loss, then well worth considering further.

If you hadn't, then serious & considerable life changing decisions are not best made following a loss. For a "while".

 

[Kruel J]

I'm sorry for your loss. Do what makes you happy.

 

[kevlar]

Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.

honestly ... move bro. this state has the california cancer so bad it may never come back. several of my good shooting buddies fled this cancer to states with real freedom.
california ruined itself. then oregon. then washington. all states a failing.

 

[Stomper]

Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.

Native Oregonian here. Four more years until retirement, and I'm dumping this sheite-hole called Oregon and taking a boat-load of tax-base with me!

Let them eat cake.

 

[Koda]

That is my belief also! After almost 40yrs of Liberal/Democratic bulldoodoo, and more moving in everyday, there is no way we'll see OR as a free state again!

What progressives have done to this state and nation is unconscionable. The idea that Oregonians regardless of where they came from, voted for it all means the state is too far gone.

 

[Bolt_308]

Hey @Jcon268 , I know we have met a couple of times for classifieds, just saw this thread and wanted to express my condolences. Unfortunately as we get older so do our parents, and we lost my wifes dad a couple years ago, similarly far too young. It hurts. I would just say that it is easy in this time to want to jump and make decisions, but I would recommend giving it some time, allowing things to settle down as much as they can, and really focus on the family and working through the grieving process. This little online community, although we can all be a bit rough around the edges at times, is absolutely filled with top quality salt of the earth folks, and Oregon has more of them than often it feels like. Take care and hang in there . . .

 

[Jade Falcon]

I'm sorry for your loss dude. I myself am tying up some loose ends here in Oregon, then I'm putting my house on the market and leaving for Idaho. That might be as far as a year in the future; it all depends on how long it takes my house to sell.

To hell with this state. Worst place I've ever lived.

 

[BMGMAN]

Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.

I lost my father back in 2007 when I was just 21. He was a 27 year veteran of the US army, and the man was like freakin Superman to me. I started my construction company 6 months after he passed. I've worked hard to build a good reputation and a large enough network that I don't struggle looking for work. And that's a good feeling. But I want to pass my success to my children so they don't have to struggle. I've really been thinking, and selling my points to my wife that it's time to get outta here. Hard when your entire life and all your memories are tied to a location. I wish you the absolute best in whatever journey you travel.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Condolences on the loss of your father.
As for Oregone, get while the gettin' is good. Ain't nothin' wrong with Idaho.

 

[saxon]

first , Sorry for your loss.
Second, as a teen i was part of the group of "Californians" who moved to Oregon in the late 70's early 80's because all the writing had been on the walls for year and the left wave was there to stay, and in Oregon no mater how much we warned Oregonians of the danger of the left, the left ideology crept in
and then the labral left moved in from cali changing Oregon for the worst, and no once again at 57 i am seriously considering moving, or movng to some property with a good 200 yards to the st from the driveway, and pray i don't have to go rand weaver.
but yes do what you need to do for you and your family God speed and good luck.

 

[gmerkt]

I see parallels between your life and mine. My dad, also my best friend, died in 1984 when I was 34 years old. Hardly a day goes by that I don't think about him in some way. But life goes on.

I made a major interstate move in 1987, when I was 37 years old. Aside from my service years, I'd mostly lived in one place up until that time. Family members, medical professionals, life-long friends, financial institutions, all were left behind. It's a big move and not for the weak. I sold our place, packed up my wife, three kids and three cats, all the household goods and moved the lot of them 1,200 miles. The only common thread was that I was with the same employer as a transfer. Of course I lost my in office seniority and started over again at the bottom.

It takes a strong person to be able to make a major, life-changing move. The weak cannot find it within themselves to do it. They are either too emotionally attached to their native area or overly fearful of change that no matter how bad it gets, they can't move. They will endure bad weather, unemployment, deteriorating neighborhoods and lots of other hardships because they aren't strong enough to move. Even poor people can move one way or another.

One exception to the above are the wealthy. Often their financial substance makes it too difficult for them to leave their native area.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me

I don't know about "most of" your life being ahead of you. With any luck, though, half or maybe better. BUT: In my opinion, you can't wait too long to make a major change as described. Because at some point, you become dug in too deep. Meaning a lot of things, but in general as we get older, it's simply more difficult to make the change. For one thing, health issues can arise. As an elder, you don't want to be too far out in the boondocks from quality medical care. Which is a major reason I will never make another life-changing move. Among others.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.

I reached the crossroads a few years back and like it where I am now.

 

[Jcon268]

I see parallels between your life and mine. My dad, also my best friend, died in 1984 when I was 34 years old. Hardly a day goes by that I don't think about him in some way. But life goes on.

I made a major interstate move in 1987, when I was 37 years old. Aside from my service years, I'd mostly lived in one place up until that time. Family members, medical professionals, life-long friends, financial institutions, all were left behind. It's a big move and not for the weak. I sold our place, packed up my wife, three kids and three cats, all the household goods and moved the lot of them 1,200 miles. The only common thread was that I was with the same employer as a transfer. Of course I lost my in office seniority and started over again at the bottom.

It takes a strong person to be able to make a major, life-changing move. The weak cannot find it within themselves to do it. They are either too emotionally attached to their native area or overly fearful of change that no matter how bad it gets, they can't move. They will endure bad weather, unemployment, deteriorating neighborhoods and lots of other hardships because they aren't strong enough to move. Even poor people can move one way or another.

One exception to the above are the wealthy. Often their financial substance makes it too difficult for them to leave their native area.


I don't know about "most of" your life being ahead of you. With any luck, though, half or maybe better. BUT: In my opinion, you can't wait too long to make a major change as described. Because at some point, you become dug in too deep. Meaning a lot of things, but in general as we get older, it's simply more difficult to make the change. For one thing, health issues can arise. As an elder, you don't want to be too far out in the boondocks from quality medical care. Which is a major reason I will never make another life-changing move. Among others.

Yeah I overstated the most of my life part. Perhaps I should have said most of my adult life. I agree about being too far from medical care and that's part of why my parents stayed. My dad needed that care. He had a quad bypass in 2020 and we learned he had peripheral arterial disease and so ended up having multiple vascular surgeries in follow-up. I saw him nearly die once before. I guess I was naive and thought he had turned a corner because in his last year or two he was doing great. Moving around freely and everything... hell, his last day on Earth he was at my house spraying weeds and helping me load up a pressure washer into his van. He was a nonstop worker until his heart just stopped on him. He learned work ethic from the age of 14 because he grew up poor and him and his brothers helped pay the bills as kids. He just didn't take good care of his body.

 

[Jcon268]

Hey @Jcon268 , I know we have met a couple of times for classifieds, just saw this thread and wanted to express my condolences. Unfortunately as we get older so do our parents, and we lost my wifes dad a couple years ago, similarly far to young. It hurts. I would just say that it is easy in this time to want to jump and make decisions, but I would recommend giving it some time, allowing things to settle down as much as they can, and really focus on the family and working through the grieving process. This little online community, although we can all be a bit rough around the edges at times, is absolutely filled with top quality salt of the earth folks, and Oregon has more of them than often it feels like. Take care and hang in there . . .

Thanks friend. I am definitely going to need time for my mind to clear. We haven't even secured his final resting place yet so it's a little too soon to start jumping in any direction. I will be playing everything by ear.

 

[nwslopoke]

To hell with this state. Worst place I've ever l lived.

I hope that is just in the later years. It was one of the best places I lived from around 2000. Coming from California I only then started to realize what overreaching government control looked like. The slow boil in Oregon started around 2015.

As I travel, I see the same nationwide. We had a big shift in our morals and even how our families enter act. The mid west and south seem less affected but for how long?

That fake, plastic relationship we know in California is deeply rooted everywhere. I lost my last few friends because they were chasing younger women and stuff in their 50s.

With my roots in California I hear a lot of people actually ready for a change. It isn't enough yet. So, it's taken 20 plus years for them to see the light. Will it take that long for Oregon?

 

[Jade Falcon]

I hope that is just in the later years. It was one of the best places I lived from around 2000. Coming from California I only then started to realize what overreaching government control looked like. The slow boil in Oregon started around 2015.

As I travel, I see the same nationwide. We had a big shift in our morals and even how our families enter act. The mid west and south seem less affected but for how long?

That fake, plastic relationship we know in California is deeply rooted everywhere. I lost my last few friends because they were chasing younger women and stuff in their 50s.

With my roots in California I hear a lot of people actually ready for a change. It isn't enough yet. So, it's taken 20 plus years for them to see the light. Will it take that long for Oregon?

I've lived here the past 5 years, from 2020 onward. This place is worse than the 25 years I lived in Vancouver WA. The recent gun control notwithstanding, SW Washington was better than any place I've been to in Oregon, with maybe the exception of Mt. Hood and the Gorge.

 

[orygun]

Lifelong Oregonian here. I was born in Portland, but fortunately spent my childhood in the central and eastern part of this state. Been back in the Metro area since 1974. I've seen full well the liberal policies that have been destroying this state since shortly after then. I'm also used to the political pendulum swinging back and forth. In this state there has been a very strong liberal current, especially since 2020.
The one positive thing I have to say is that I believe that the extremes have taken over to the point that even the normally liberal voters are realizing how ridiculous things have become. I believe we don't have a Democrat for a President due to similar reasoning.
My wife and I have recently started to make our retirement plans. Eastern Oregon has a lot going for it/us. The mindset is quite a bit different and there isn't nearly as many people there. At least for now I am tied to our family property and the grandkids are here, but we're thinking being 5 to 6 hours from this part of the country is a good thing, especially because we have a place to stay at the property. Moving to eastern Oregon isn't a great idea if you have to earn a living, but as retired people, it looks damn good to us.

 

[wired]

Sorry about your dad and yeah, Get out. When my dad died in 2018 that was the trigger that sent me out of OR and WA for good. 2nd best thing I ever did.

 

[Mikej]

Yeah. I didn't read most of the posts, so maybe it has already been said. What I did read I share the sentiments about losing your father. And at your you age. I can tell you, it will be much easier to get out of the bubblegum hole that Oregon is turning/has turned, into, now than if you wait. You have family you speak to in Idaho!? What a deal! Your mother is amiable to moving? I see ZERO downside to getting out. At the vary least, get out of "Dumpster-Fire" OR. I figure that puts you in the Willamette Valley? Completely over-powered with dims, that will always do their best to make life miserable for the people that don't run in lock-step with them.