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I think she'd like to move to be closer to my half-brother (her son). I agree 100% on the timing, the only thing is that my wife's family is still here and we're working on convincing them too. I'll know more by the end of this year I'm sure.
The benefit of your wife's family being here is that you have a reason to visit.

If you can and want to continue the business, ID would be a better place.
 
his last day on Earth he was at my house spraying weeds and helping me load up a pressure washer into his van.
As silly as it seems, these are the kinds of life details that can help you hold on to good memories of your dad.

This afternoon, I'm going over to one of my daughter's places and look at a colony of lupines that I planted last year. Those will come back year after year and I hope that she will remember me when she sees the flowers. I've planted trees over there too. From volunteer seedlings that came up on my place. Some I planted 15 years ago, now they are about 30 feet tall. I planted some more two years ago. It's my hope that these trees will remind her of me at some future time when I'm no longer walking the planet.
 
My sympathies to the OP.

Also, I think think you're being completely rational in regards to Oregon. I'm just a little younger and have the same thoughts about needing to leave. Family obligations are about the only thing keeping me here.
 
Losing a loved one is tough and you have my sincere condolences. I fully understand your feelings about where Oregon has gone. We came to the conclusion it had left us, so moved away more than a year ago. While we miss friends, our rural lifestyle, and the scenery, we are much happier here with constitution carry, middle-right politics with no drama or related theatrics, no homeless people around, and fine people. Oregon is not the end of the rainbow, and there are many wonderful states in which to live.
 
I turned 78 a couple of days ago and would GTFO of Oregon if not for our rental properties.
Exchange them into new properties elsewhere, or if you're sick of being the landlord/handyman, exchange into a Delaware Statutory Trust.
 
Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.
From what little you have shared if it was me? I would of course be looking to sell. If you can at least get out and not owe anything? Sell. Sounds like its FAR from worth keeping the business. LOT's of ways to make a living, no point staying with one that is going to make you miserable and probably shorten your life.
 
I've struggled with my faith over the years but I felt a certain calm when he actually passed. I held his hand through the entire thing. I knew where he had gone to and no suffering at all. It doesn't erase the grief because we are just humans living down here and we can still feel all the pain. But we all die one day, we can't start new until we let go here.
The one BIG downside to living a good long life is all the saying goodby. There is no "easy" out here. Everyone has their own way of dealing with it. Lost my Dad LONG ago. Wife lost both of hers a couple years ago and it still seems strange not to be able to go over and see them. Really only time will help. The pain never really goes away though
 
Yeah. I didn't read most of the posts, so maybe it has already been said. What I did read I share the sentiments about losing your father. And at your you age. :( I can tell you, it will be much easier to get out of the bubblegum hole that Oregon is turning/has turned, into, now than if you wait. You have family you speak to in Idaho!? What a deal! Your mother is amiable to moving? I see ZERO downside to getting out. At the vary least, get out of "Dumpster-Fire" OR. I figure that puts you in the Willamette Valley? Completely over-powered with dims, that will always do their best to make life miserable for the people that don't run in lock-step with them.
Gresham, East Multnomah County, right in the heart of the dumpster. Most of my neighbors are retired and have lived here since it was a better place to live. I myself have lived here since 1995. Before that I was living in Portland in the Parkrose district.
 
Gresham, East Multnomah County, right in the heart of the dumpster. Most of my neighbors are retired and have lived here since it was a better place to live. I myself have lived here since 1995. Before that I was living in Portland in the Parkrose district.
Heck man, I notice a huge difference just getting out of the potland city limits at NE 164th! Parts of Park Rose are a real pit now.

I wish you luck on getting out man! :s0155:
 
Oregon like Washington are beautiful states. A short time ago I was in San Diego's, Old Town. Again, Beautiful locations where people find happiness, comfort and bliss. I just find it harder, maybe because I feel more invested.

I don't have those same feelings in Europe, in a lot of ways much more restricted as far as individual rights, but I can live and let live here.

On a side note. The police in several of my stops patrol the busy squares in groups of 4-6, with one carrying an MP5 style or the modern equivalent. Individual police guard the outside entrance to what I assume to be government buildings.

In Spain there have been a few minor protest with a high police presence. My hotel is on a main street and the emergency sirens run almost 24/7.
 
Well it has finally happened. As I've talked about it in a few other threads, I planned to stay in the State of Oregon until my parents passed away. Just this last week, my father passed away who was not just my father but also my best friend, mentor and boss. Over the coming weeks my family will be sorting through his will and I will inherit the family business and the property it's located at. The problem is, I've watched the business slowly die from inside and watched it wreak havoc on my father's health over many years, not to mention taking a toll on my own health. Our line of work requires us to work inside of and interact with the public school system and to put it simply, they no longer respect us. The State has gone completely rogue and doesn't care about hard working people, only their tax dollars. I promised my father I would ensure my mother was taken care of in her elder years and I intend to do that, however, my mom has expressed interest in downsizing her life now that my father is no longer around.

I'm only 39 years old and have most of my life still in front of me. My daughter is approaching the age of entering school and there's not a cell in my body that would be okay with her being in the Oregon public school system. And to top it all off, they want to make a criminal out of me as a gun owner and not have a good way to defend myself and my loved ones.

My half-brother lives in Idaho and he always tells me how much he loves it and how they just slightly lowered his property taxes recently. As much as I want to stay and fight the good fight... I also have seen the writing on the wall for awhile. And in my particular case, I've lived here my entire life so I have everything to leave behind. But I also have time to build new memories and start fresh. It'll probably take well over a year to get everything figured out but I have to consider my family and their future.

Not sure if anyone is at the same crossroads I'm at but I'd appreciate hearing anyone's thoughts.
I envy you! My father was barely that, let alone my best friend.
 
I'm sorry for your loss, it's the hardest thing to happen to a son that idolized his father.
I grew up in the South, in 83 I got married in Florida then hit the road contracting searching for that next good paying job for 20 years, settled in a small rural town for 30 + years. Spent 15 years fighting the progressives that infiltrated my world and after my retirement, I'm out of here. Going back home to die eventually but going to enjoy what time I have left away from here.
Do what your heart tells ya and have no regrets. :s0155:
 

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