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I archery hunted for 7 years, I killed 7 bulls with my bow. Some of the best hunting experiences of my life.......then all the guys that lost their gun rights showed up on the scene! They bugeled at every wide spot in the road and made terribly unethical shots with no idea what the hell they where doing. Then.......the atvs and side by sides followed, you could be in the middle of no where and all of a sudden here comes a sxs. Now they try to film every hunt and its more about the gear and being on utube. Im honestly fed up with all the hunting in oregon........dont get me started on odfw......

Just heard all Hancock and other private timber grounds are getting locked up on the east side of the cascades
You must have been hunting the same spots as we were. We had the exact same experiences. Last year we were camped above a road in the Imnaha unit. Every night there would be pickups idling down the road, bugling every 200 yards. We bailed on the Starkey unit due to the ATV/SideXSide circus. My son has been lobbying to move to a different unit, but we don't really know where it might be better.

You are correct about the private timber grounds being removed from ODFW's Access and Habitat Program. It's actually Manulife (previously Hancock) and it will have a huge impact on people hunting the Sled Springs unit in particular. Years ago, that was a solid unit that my hunting partners at that time and I packed quite a few bulls out of. Between the logging, popularity/preference points required, and fire closures, we had already given up on that unit anyway. They are moving to a pay to play permit system.

Here is the pertinent information:

Hunters will need permission from Manulife to enter their property as of June 1, 2026. Manulife has informed ODFW that they intend to launch a fee permit program where hunters or other recreationists can purchase a permit to access their lands. More information about the program should be available from Manulife in coming weeks, prior to the May 15 controlled hunt application deadline.

The decision will impact about 270,000 acres in northeast Oregon and a little over 12,400 acres in southwest Oregon. The list of impacted areas includes:

Northeast Oregon:

  • Catherine Creek, Mount Emily, Sled Springs (Manulife properties make up about 33% of this unit), Starkey, Sumpter, Ukiah, Walla Walla and Wenaha wildlife management units
  • TMAs: Little Catherine Creek, Meachem, Noregaard, Shamrock/Whiskey Creek
  • Deer Hunt Areas: NB-01, NE-02, NE-03, NE-04, NE-05, NE-06, SW-02
Southwest Oregon:

  • Jackson Cooperative TMA in the Rogue and Dixon wildlife management units
 
You must have been hunting the same spots as we were. We had the exact same experiences. Last year we were camped above a road in the Imnaha unit. Every night there would be pickups idling down the road, bugling every 200 yards. We bailed on the Starkey unit due to the ATV/SideXSide circus. My son has been lobbying to move to a different unit, but we don't really know where it might be better.

You are correct about the private timber grounds being removed from ODFW's Access and Habitat Program. It's actually Manulife (previously Hancock) and it will have a huge impact on people hunting the Sled Springs unit in particular. Years ago, that was a solid unit that my hunting partners at that time and I packed quite a few bulls out of. Between the logging, popularity/preference points required, and fire closures, we had already given up on that unit anyway. They are moving to a pay to play permit system.

Here is the pertinent information:

Hunters will need permission from Manulife to enter their property as of June 1, 2026. Manulife has informed ODFW that they intend to launch a fee permit program where hunters or other recreationists can purchase a permit to access their lands. More information about the program should be available from Manulife in coming weeks, prior to the May 15 controlled hunt application deadline.

The decision will impact about 270,000 acres in northeast Oregon and a little over 12,400 acres in southwest Oregon. The list of impacted areas includes:

Northeast Oregon:

  • Catherine Creek, Mount Emily, Sled Springs (Manulife properties make up about 33% of this unit), Starkey, Sumpter, Ukiah, Walla Walla and Wenaha wildlife management units
  • TMAs: Little Catherine Creek, Meachem, Noregaard, Shamrock/Whiskey Creek
  • Deer Hunt Areas: NB-01, NE-02, NE-03, NE-04, NE-05, NE-06, SW-02
Southwest Oregon:

  • Jackson Cooperative TMA in the Rogue and Dixon wildlife management units
Ya sled was my go to for rifle big bull tags. I think I am just done with oregon, prices continue to go up too.
 
Ya sled was my go to for rifle big bull tags. I think I am just done with oregon, prices continue to go up too.
Maybe for you. I turn 65 this year, so I just paid $10 for my hunting and fishing license. I think my elk tag is cheaper too. Although, that $10 was a 66% increase over last year's $6 Pioneer License. I guess I can live with that. :p
 
I have "lost" a number of prospective hunting partners....
'Cause , yes ....we need to get out of my truck....and ......hunt.... :D

I mostly hunt on public land...and there are lots of "road hunters" for sure.
Lots of garbage dumpers too....:mad:

As for the OP...
As I said earlier...I can see how this might have happened...
I am squirrel hunting....I am in the woods....I hear or see something...it must be a squirrel.
Much like stress...when you are focused on something...that something is at times...all you see....
No matter what is really there.

Make sure of both your target and backstop.
Couldn't tell you just how many shots I have passed on , with this in mind....
However it sure beats just one Oh Sh_t moment.
Andy
 
I would guess here...

The thought process :
I am squirrel hunting....
I want to get a squirrel ....
I hear a noise...see a movement...
I am hunting squirrels...it must be a squirrel...boom.

Again just a guess.

When focused....
The mind often sees and hears what it expects to see and hear...
Which may not be what is actually there.
Andy
Yes, lost a guy I went to elemetary school with due to a sound shooter.
 
Plus great bucks I didn't take because I wasn't up to hauling them out to the truck.....
LOL. I can't say I've ever passed up a big buck or bull because I wasn't up to hauling it out to the truck. But there have been several occasions where I was relieved when the opportunity didn't arise. :s0140:

My nearly 80-year-old hunting buddy doesn't worry about it either. I was sitting on the couch eating a sandwich one day. The phone rang. My buddy wanted to know if I was busy, or if I had time to drive down and track his buck for him and drag it back to his Tracker. :D He shot it from a treestand I had put up for him a couple of weeks before. He made a great shot, so it really wasn't all that much trouble. When we got back to his garage I said, "I suppose you want me to hang it and skin it out too." He said, "If it wouldn't be too much trouble." The only real negative was he rewarded me with some sort of trashy "near beer". It was awful. :p
 
LOL. I can't say I've ever passed up a big buck or bull because I wasn't up to hauling it out to the truck. But there have been several occasions where I was relieved when the opportunity didn't arise. :s0140:

My nearly 80-year-old hunting buddy doesn't worry about it either. I was sitting on the couch eating a sandwich one day. The phone rang. My buddy wanted to know if I was busy, or if I had time to drive down and track his buck for him and drag it back to his Tracker. :D He shot it from a treestand I had put up for him a couple of weeks before. He made a great shot, so it really wasn't all that much trouble. When we got back to his garage I said, "I suppose you want me to hang it and skin it out too." He said, "If it wouldn't be too much trouble." The only real negative was he rewarded me with some sort of trashy "near beer". It was awful. :p
I once scoped an incredible buck, then let it go because it was a half mile up and down rugged terrain back to the truck. Then I worked my way across to the spot and up the slope not 50 feet away...was a road.
 
I once scoped an incredible buck, then let it go because it was a half mile up and down rugged terrain back to the truck. Then I worked my way across to the spot and up the slope not 50 feet away...was a road.
I had a similar experience elk hunting with a bow in the Ochocos. A buddy, his wife and I made an agreement to shoot a bull anywhere, but if you were gonna shoot a cow, do it within 1/2 mile of a drivable road. (This was just before GPS technology went mainstream.) I passed on three cows at thirty yards because I was about a mile from camp. As I kept walking, I hit the paved road about 400 yards later - downhill.

GPS is a big difference maker. My buddy was dropping me off at the top of a high-country ridge chasing blacktail with my rifle. A couple of other guys stopped and told me I had better take a frying pan with me. I laughed and told them it wasn't my first rodeo. They didn't realize what my GPS told me - as long as you crossed to the next ridgeline and stayed on the left side, it dropped down to the main road in less than 1.5 miles. Any buck taken would have been a fairly steep downhill drag. My sense of direction isn't the best. I would be much more limited as to where I can hunt without a GPS (or dead).
 
Shot a buck that was standing on a snow covered logging road about 200 yards from my truck. It was so close I debated going for the .44 mag or just sight along the rifle barrel since all I could see in the scope was fur. When shot, it did a back flip and slid about 100 yards or so down a steep snow covered slope. I had to 'skid' it back up the hill using my drag rope and 'anchoring' myself behind trees until I reached the road again. A ten minute exercise that turned into an hours' worth of work!
 
Ive heard of hunters being mistaken for a deer, but I cant see how anyone could mistake a person for a squirrel.
Be safe out there this season, identify your target and whats behind it...

I used to know a guy that got shot in the head while he was calling ducks. Some guy just shot through brush at the sound
 
Stories like this are heartbreaking. I've heard way too many of them over the years. It's made me a hard-core safety advocate. I've done my best to brainwash my kids about gun safety, and driving safety for that matter; that's the other big one.

My 20yo son made me proud recently. I gave him a gun for his birthday. I automatically checked the chamber before handing it to him. He took it and nonchalantly checked the chamber without hesitating. I told him he did good, makes me proud! I don't take safety chances around guns, ever.

I haven't hunted in decades, but remember from hunter's ed when I was a kid, that you ALWAYS know your target and what's beyond it, and NEVER fire if there's a danger of that bullet doing unintended damage.

A good friend recently told me about a friend of his who accidently shot his own daughter while hunting a few years back. Apparently the guy was an experienced, responsible hunter and gun owner, so it can happen to anyone if you let up for even a second, or develop any bad habits. I asked how the guy was doing, and he said that he passed away not too long afterwards, everyone said it was a broken heart. I can't even imagine. :(

Safety really is the absolute TOP priority. Sorry for the sermon, but I'll preach it to anyone who will listen.
 
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Yep. I remember the scenes in war movies where the squad leader mimes "shush!" and points at the wall, then the whole squad opens up and kills a bunch of guys on the other side. I am sure that really does happen in war, but I can't stop and think "But what if that was another squad on your side?"

I mean I am sure there are ways to be reasonably sure, if there are rounds incoming from a pillbox or room or whatever I am not going to stick my head in there to verify before chucking a frag in (same same as shooting blind, just different). But in that situation you have a pretty good idea that there actually is an enemy in there. The way it gets portrayed in the movies I really wonder.

I used to play large scale paintball wars, and while the consequences of lighting up a bunch of teammates was mostly just funny, I still took the extra risk to verify as best I could that my blind target was what I thought it was. When we did "force on force" training with the local PD they were a lot more strict on target ID because they were playing "for reals rules." Getting yelled at by the RO because he thought you took a shot too fast for a positive target ID was super fun.
By far the most dangerous thing in the woods is other people.
 

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