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Geez! Now I've got to have an EDC rotation? What happens? Do my sidearms go stale after awhile. Next I'll probably have to go out and get a truck gun.
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Yea… the justification for it makes zero sense too. I do not understand it all. If you don't have confidence in carrying a loaded gun. Or you lack confidence in the gun you carry as well are the holster, then you probably don't have the capability of using it under stress.It straight up blows me away that this would even still be a debate, let alone people making excuses to justify it. Totally mind boggling.
Agreed. If you're carrying around an unloaded gun, why even carry it at all.Yea… the justification for it makes zero sense too. I do not understand it all. If you don't have confidence in carrying a loaded gun. Or you lack confidence in the gun you carry as well are the holster, then you probably don't have the capability of using it under stress.
So just leave it in the safe at home. Cause you're gunna get yourself or another person killed.
Train. Get to the point you some self confidence and confidence in the gear you use. Until then don't carry. If you need some extra insurance carry a DA/SA gun or a DAO or get something with a mechanical safety. But at the end of the day you have to shoot. You have to train with what you carry.
There are zero substitutes. You can't substitute a lack of ability with an empty chamber, a specific gun or a piece of gear. You never rise to the occasion. You fall to the level of your training. Plain and simple.
Cause your delusional and think, "I'll have enough time and know what to do when the situation takes place."Agreed. If you're carrying around an unloaded gun, why even carry it at all.
Totally agree. My wife is in that 1st group. She carried chambered for awhile, then had to stop carrying for a little bit, and now not clambering yet. She's working on getting back to that comfort level.Just sharing a perspective. When I was writing the electronic newsletter for a gun club, I posted a survey asking, if you carry, do you have a round in the chamber? I found 20% do not. In my experience, there are various reasons from talking with folks, but for many, they are just not ready/at a point where they are comfortable carrying in that condition.
I find these folks are generally clear-thinking and cautious in their outlook. I agree with my friends here; they should have one in the chamber. But they are just not there yet. I'm sure they are out there, but I haven't come across the "I'm gonna Israeli carry and have a sub-second draw while racking the slide" crowd. Generally, they know the limitations and that a surreptitious draw will be necessary. Ideal? No...but it is where they are at for the moment and I hold respect for that.
Because the much more common situation is with some who carry with the "I've got a permit, so I'm good to go" mentality, slap in a #3.5 trigger, pocket carry with an SF gun with no safety. I'd rather be seated at the table with the first group. Also, the first group is often quiet, sometimes embarrassed by their choice. The latter group is usually the first to be boisterous about their pocket weasel. Numerous exceptions, of course. Just what I have experienced.
I had a student who refused to carry her revolver loaded at all. Her "well thought out justification" was that any sane person would runaway as soon as they saw a gun. Just couldn't get the idea through to her that not all people are sane and that any gun could be a desirable target for a criminal.Just sharing a perspective. When I was writing the electronic newsletter for a gun club, I posted a survey asking, if you carry, do you have a round in the chamber? I found 20% do not. In my experience, there are various reasons from talking with folks, but for many, they are just not ready/at a point where they are comfortable carrying in that condition.
I find these folks are generally clear-thinking and cautious in their outlook. I agree with my friends here; they should have one in the chamber. But they are just not there yet. I'm sure they are out there, but I haven't come across the "I'm gonna Israeli carry and have a sub-second draw while racking the slide" crowd. Generally, they know the limitations and that a surreptitious draw will be necessary. Ideal? No...but it is where they are at for the moment and I hold respect for that.
Because the much more common situation is with some who carry with the "I've got a permit, so I'm good to go" mentality, slap in a #3.5 trigger, pocket carry with an SF gun with no safety. I'd rather be seated at the table with the first group. Also, the first group is often quiet, sometimes embarrassed by their choice. The latter group is usually the first to be boisterous about their pocket weasel. Numerous exceptions, of course. Just what I have experienced.
Fair warning, stick an empty revolver in my face prepare to be beaten with it.I had a student who refused to carry her revolver loaded at all. Her "well thought out justification" was that any sane person would runaway as soon as they saw a gun. Just couldn't get the idea through to her that not all people are sane and that any gun could be a desirable target for a criminal.
My wife and I decided to stop teaching CHL classes after dealing with too many macho guys who were going to carry the latest, super tactical gun in their waist band and shoot anyone that they caught crossing them.
Both groups are equally delusional.
Years ago when CA went to a ten round limit, I had to buy a new gun to get up to ten! At that time I was carrying a 1911 and a Model 66 S&W.I've switched up my every day carry pistol in preparation for the ten round mag capacity limit. If it survives the courts, I thought I should be ready for it. I decided that ten rounds of 9mm in a P30L was a bit too much pistol for the capability. I then decided to go with the USP 45. While it is very capable, it is also a very large pistol. I decided on a Glock 30S. Its a handful but it carries well. I just added night sights but it will remain stock otherwise.
Do you think you can add the rape to your whistle, too?Rape whistle, pepper shaker, flyswatter.
I don't keep pepper in the pepper shaker. I'll fill it, if I need to, when the time comes.
Revolvers have a unique quirk of showing the person they're pointed at if the cylinder is loaded. Caught that several times in Hollywood moving picturesI had a student who refused to carry her revolver loaded at all. Her "well thought out justification" was that any sane person would runaway as soon as they saw a gun. Just couldn't get the idea through to her that not all people are sane and that any gun could be a desirable target for a criminal.
My wife and I decided to stop teaching CHL classes after dealing with too many macho guys who were going to carry the latest, super tactical gun in their waist band and shoot anyone that they caught crossing them.
Both groups are equally delusional.
Kinda? A lot of people would have to choose their mouse gun or full size and neither is optimal year round in all situations. I would think standardizing to a platform is fine. Such as all Glocks or all Smith revolvers or all USPs, etcI always thought an EDC rotation was a bit dangerous. When called upon brandish, hopefully you'll have all your training with each sidearm cataloged properly, so you can reflect, 'oh yeah, the safty on this one is here, and my point of impact is here, this on is SA etc. Wouldn't it be better to just train and get exceptional with one pistol?