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Help with Mosin 91/30

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Yellowsevenpot, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. Yellowsevenpot

    Yellowsevenpot Spokane, WA New Member

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    Hello all,

    I am a first time Mosin owner as of recent. I purchased a 91/30 through J&g Sales. A 1930 Tula. It was just packed in cosmoline, and the finish was horrible. I cleaned it up and noticed this while considering a method to clean up the bore. (Check the attachment).

    What would cause the silver band? Does this look counter bored? Any ideas on how to clean up the bore ?

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  2. Yellowsevenpot

    Yellowsevenpot Spokane, WA New Member

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    Another pic of the bore.


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  3. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    It looks counter bored to me. It's very common to find this on Russian guns.

    As far as cleaning the bore I rely on elbow grease and time. Many people swear by an Outer's Foul Out system.
     
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  4. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I've owned and cleaned many surplus mosins. Best method I've found to clean the bore is a 32 cal nylon brush on a rod. Chuck the rod into your favorite drill. Inside a plastic bin with the stock and bolt removed. Add enough warm water to cover the action and barrel. Add a good amount of simple green. Then brush like crazy. Follow it up with a thorough drying. A good after clean with your favorite solvent. Then run a few patches saturated with your favorite solvent through the bore followed by a few dry ones. If it still isn't clean repeat.
     
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  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    The silver band is newly exposed metal from being turned on a lathe to counter bore the muzzle.

    Keep in mind those rifles were used by an illiterate, poorly trained (and apathetic) peasant-army, and if/when they cleaned those things they most likely just crammed "whatever" down the bore via the muzzle, thus "boogering up" the rifling at the original crown which would be a detriment to accuracy.

    Shoot that puppy and let us know how it works! :)
     
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  6. Modeler

    Modeler Molalla, Oregon Soccer Fan

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    I pushed paper towels soaked in Simple Green down the bore until they came out clean. Your results may vary.
     
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  7. russmudgett

    russmudgett Lake Stevens New Member

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    Yes, It does look like a re-crowning and counterbore. The rifle I own does not look like this.
     
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  8. Yellowsevenpot

    Yellowsevenpot Spokane, WA New Member

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    Shoots just great. Chamber had since been cleaned per the iraqveteran8888 method, and camming surfaces of the bolt have been polished. Action is almost silky smooth.

     
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  9. Qaolin

    Qaolin 1 A.U. from a G2 near Beaverton Old Army Cook Silver Supporter

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    The price has gone up in the last couple of years but it's still the best bang for the buck. There's nothing like a Mosin for inexpensive explosive therapy.
     
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  10. Qjay

    Qjay Vancouver, not BC, Washington, not DC Active Member

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    How does it group?
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    No, it's not counterbored, but likely should have been. Again, how does it group? Mine all do 2 MOA with surp ammo
     
  12. concealedhunter

    concealedhunter Tualitan Valley Member

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    I had the same experience with mine. Same counter-bore as well. It took me a whole bottle of Hoppes and plenty of good wood cleaner/polish.
    Mine groups within 3 inches at 125 yards, which works for me. I use mine for my big game hunting and I usually take my shots within 75 yards.
    My complaint is that it eats Winchester ammo which is all I can usually find. The Winchester soft points always get the tip nicked off when they get chambered in the bolt. The Tulammo that can be found on occasion chambers best and gives me the tightest groups.