Happy Veteran's Day 2024

[MTpockets]

I hope all the Veterans out there are having a fantastic day and are receiving some well-deserved recognition!
And to the MPs, I'm extending this special day of appreciation to you too.......But just for today.

 

[mkthegrassgrow]

Maybe not serve an enlistment, but at least go through Basic as a "shared cultural experience." Think of it as making the Senior Trip summer a growth experience... and while we're at it, simplify things by having Parris Island do Boot for everybody.

In theory sure.... but in reality it's not possible. The majority of 17-21 year olds are unable to currently join due to drugs, criminal records, medical issues or simply cause they are fat bodies. If you mandate everybody the standard is going to plummet. Leaving our military even weaker than it already is.

They would have to be separate programs from each other. Kids nowadays can't even run a mile. Most adult males struggle to complete 3 pull ups. Mentally they are fragile. The insults and hazing alone would be an issue for them. You really think they are making it through Marine Corps bootcamp? Liabilities would be out of this world.

I like the idea i just know its not realistic. Probably why it's better that our military stays volunteer. I wanna say about one percent of America's population serves in the military. That just puts it in perspective.

 

[64MercurysRule]

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[1911Fanatic]

Maybe not serve an enlistment, but at least go through Basic as a "shared cultural experience." Think of it as making the Senior Trip summer a growth experience... and while we're at it, simplify things by having Parris Island do Boot for everybody.

Half of these snowflakes today would crack, and wouldn't meet the physical standards. When I went in on delayed enlistment, I was over weight. I worked hard for a year almost to lose the weight because I really wanted to be in the Air Force. I made it in, and after basic, I was a lean mean, bandage changing, wound dressing machine.

Today, my 29 year old son had his first veteran's day as an actual Veteran. He was really enjoying the steak dinner at a roadhouse in Texas today. He got pensioned out due to injuries he got in combat, etc. He is a real hero. That was never me. I get a little embarrassed when somebody thanks me for my service, as I was pretty unremarkable as an Airman. But I am the Physician of Record on a couple of birth certificates for a couple of kids in California that were born at the base hospital without an MD present because the doc couldn't be bother to get his bubblegum out of bed and come to work.

 

[1911Fanatic]

In theory sure.... but in reality it's not possible. The majority of 17-21 year olds are unable to currently join due to drugs, criminal records, medical issues or simply cause they are fat bodies. If you mandate everybody the standard is going to plummet. Leaving our military even weaker than it already is.

They would have to be separate programs from each other. Kids nowadays can't even run a mile. Most adult males struggle to complete 3 pull ups. Mentally they are fragile. The insults and hazing alone would be an issue for them. You really think they are making it through Marine Corps bootcamp? Liabilities would be out of this world.

I like the idea i just know its not realistic. Probably why it's better that our military stays volunteer. I wanna say about one percent of America's population serves in the military. That just puts it in perspective.

My son was a DI at fort Sill for a few years. They aren't allowed to haze em or smoke em like they used to back in the day.

 

[Croat]

My son was a DI at fort Sill for a few years. They aren't allowed to haze em or smoke em like they used to back in the day.

That may not be such a new phenomenon, at least decades now. Had one knee me in the crotch during basic training, just because I was standing in line. I let it go (he missed the important bits), but apparently others complained about what he did to me. Next thing I know I'm called before the base commander with that poor slob already standing there quaking in his boots. I'm asked to confirm that the incident happened. I confirmed it. I'm asked to press charges against him. I declined and responded that all one had to do was look at that poor slob and it was clear he'd learned his lesson enough. The base commander shook my hand and dismissed me.

 

[JRuby]

In boot camp at great mistakes in the summer of 1980 - my company had a sister company. A master chief seal was finishing his career pushing boots. I think he volunteered for that position. I believe his name was MasterChef Green. Been a long time. His whole purpose I thought at the time was to get one of the recruits to take a swing at him so he could take the recruit apart. I knew my goal was to stay away from him as best I could. He was still there when I left. I hope he is enjoying retirement. It wasn't till I got to know some deep submergence divers I learned what bad really was. They were ex EOD that had converted to divers, they had served in Viet Nam. You always used a night stick to wake them up, never ever touched them when they were sleeping.

 

[mkthegrassgrow]

My son was a DI at fort Sill for a few years. They aren't allowed to haze em or smoke em like they used to back in the day.

I got out in 2017. Hazing was still taking place. But only the junior Marines that were respected and that were known to not go running to SNCOs or officers and it was done out of the view of others. It was almost a compliment to be hazed.

 

[RetiredLEO]

To all who served...no matter what branch or MOS...
No matter whether in peace or in war....
Happy Veteran's Day...and Thank you.
Andy

Semper Fi and thank you Andy!
Scott

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Semper Fi and thank you Andy!
Scott

My pleasure ...mostly...
And thank you.
Andy

 

[Member 55555]

I went in the Navy in '71 fully expecting to go to Vietnam; didn't. Spent almost four years on shore duty in San Diego, then flunked out of OCS and couldn't adjust to shipboard life. My first wife divorced me and the Navy got tired of my crap; asked me to go home and not list USN on my resume.
When my church recognizes Vets I'm embarrassed to stand but my current wife won't let me "keep my seat."