I tried and tried to make this work for me - and it just doesn't feel right. Worn around the house a couple times (you couldn't tell from looking at it), but practically new in the wrap. Galco Ankle Holster for S&W J frame, RH Calf Strap Boot extender Looks like $100+ on various sites. 85 bucks. Shipped in Oregon. Will not part out. Discreet PayPal OK, add four bucks. Will consider trade for .45ACP, 9mm, .223, or .308 ammo, if not Panic Priced. Consider trade toward CZ 75, or clone, full size, 9mm. Will add cash, obviously.