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Fix Gun Checks Act, ban ownership for just arrest not conviction

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by RB87, Mar 25, 2011.

  1. RB87

    RB87 Oregon Active Member

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    New law proposed by who else but Chuck Schumer!

    Gun control legislation | arrest drug crime | prohibit ownership | The Daily Caller - Breaking News, Opinion, Research, and Entertainment

    ..."The Fix Gun Checks Act of 2011 would greatly expand the definition of those legally prohibited from owning firearms to include anyone who’s ever been arrested — even if never convicted or found guilty — for drug possession within a five-year period. The legislation is certainly troubling for those who want a “common sense” debate about drug decriminalization. And it would seem fears that any new national gun-control legislation would be used to limit the gun-rights of law-abiding citizens is at least partially justified."
     
  2. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Totally unconstitutional.. Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law via jury of your peers, anyone?

    Not that the scumbag Schumer is concerned about any of this
     
  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    ANYONE can be arrested at ANYTIME for ANY REASON... if you fit the description of a wanted suspect/perpetrator, and/or if an LEO has "PC"... which can involve some very "creative" processes, and buy you 3-days in the tank until a writ of habeas corpus forces them to either charge you or let you go.


    So that tactic alone could strip many people of their 2A rights... slimy evil little blankity-blank-blank!! (Schmucky Schumer... not LEO's)
     
  4. Sasquatchvnv

    Sasquatchvnv Port Orchard Active Member

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    We don't need no stinkin' habeas corpus - we got the patriot act. Dissappear your butt in the middle of the night.
     
  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    meh... I don't fit the profile for a terrorist domestic or otrherwise so I don't care. I mean, I'm just a taxpayer who is a conservative/libertarian caucasian male, an honorably discharged Army veteran (with "experience").... oh wait... auntie Janet N. put a bullseye on my profile too!! :paranoid:
     
  6. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    anyone who would propose or support legislation like that should be arrested, charged with treason, given a fair trail, then promptly executed after being found guilty. Capital punishment is the only viable option for addressing the crimes of terrorists such as schumer
     
  7. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    Funny how many terrorists she created with that profile and yeah I don't know anyone like that.

    If I were ever the secretary of homeland securiy I would bring to Americas attention the terror threat from obese women and how they need to be monitored.

    SF-
     
  8. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    We need common sense politician control...
     
  9. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    When's the 1st politician buyback? I've got some pennies I'm willing to donate.
     
  10. Wheeler44

    Wheeler44 SW Washington Member

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    If there is a politician buy back I'm offering like for like....I will be out in the kennel cleaning up..err ummm.. collecting payment for my Rep and Sen...
     
  11. chemist

    chemist Beaverton OR Well-Known Member

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    Schumer is pandering to his base. I don't think he believes it can possibly pass; it's his starting position is all. He can negotiate away the most egregiously unconstitutional parts later and then claim that he has "compromised."

    The most outrageous thing about the quote in the OP is the claim that this is unfair from the standpoint of the drug decriminalization debate! So what if we're proposing prohibiting legal possession by law-abiding citizens (which we all are until found guilty of a crime). No, we should be more concerned about the rights of addicts and their dealers!
     
  12. tionico

    tionico Thurston County Well-Known Member

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    well, fourteen states have legalised possession and use of marijuana, but our Uncle Stupid in Washington DC continues to unconstitutionally enforce their own "laws"., arresting many law abiding citizens for the illegal federal controlled substances laws. ALL of these arrested "criminals" would instantly lose their 2A rights under Schumer's bill. And HE knows it. Can't get em on the CSA, take away their guns anyway. That'll fix em!! In fact, there were a bunch of raids just last week, by the Feds, all over Montana, totally contrary to Montana State Laws.... half the LEA in the state, and half the fed level cops, were in on the deal. Whatever happened to the sheriffs that they not only refused to prohibit the feds from unlawfully arresting their own citizens, but joined in and helped them make the arrests? Some Montana sheriffs need to be tossed out on their ears.... I hope their local people do so.

    as to Schumer's brain tumour, right.. it won't pass. BUT, as mentioned, he is after political capital. Traitor!! He forgets we are a nation bound by written LAW, which law requires trial by a jury of peers in ALL cases of criminal accusation, and the accused is innocent until such jury finds him guilty upon beyond a reasonable doubt of the charges as laid, AND upholds the law he is accused of violating. A jury can, and should, nullify in such cases. Drives the judges berko, but they need that every once in a while. Keeps em honest. Same with prosecutors.... ten juries nullify federal marijuana charges brought against citizens of states that have legalised it, soon enough the prosecutors will stop bringing charges on those grounds. A waste of money and time. Prosecutors don't like to lose large numbers of cases... makes em look bad, or stupid, come re-election time. After all, what's more important?