Five Way Shooting Area

[Cogs]

For those who don't know, Five Way is on BLM land, just West of the border of Mt Hood Nat Forest. It's a skip off the NF45 Road, (South of Estacada on Hwy 211, down Hillockburn Rd and becomes the NF45 into the forest) and the access road is friendly to any car (in fact, the 45 Rd is paved all the way to the turn off to 5 Way). It's on the interactive map of public land target shooting places on the Trash No Land website.

I visited last weekend and found several nearby areas where there is lots of trashed shooting sites. I'd like to do a cleanup of these various spots and will need some help, as it's too overwhelming for 1 person to do. So far, I'm planning for Sat, Aug 31st, '24, 9 AM to 1 PM. Group shoot afterward at Five Way.

I found 5 primary areas we should whip into shape. Area 1 has an abandoned boat amongst the shooting trash, Area 2 needs 4 wheel drive pickups off a spur road from the 45, Area 3 is the Five Way site, Area 4 is a shooting area at the beginning of the NF45, and Area 5 is a little trash along the roadway of the NF45 leading up to the Five Way turnoff.

We would need a couple of trailers and some some empty pickup beds. Haul all the trash to the Five Way pit and transfer it all into the dump-run trucks. At least 2 Four wheel drive pickups for the off road site Area 2. I'd like to get all trash into no more that two pickups with trailers. We'll be hauling the trash to the Sandy landfill. I'm hoping BLM will cover disposal costs, but if not, we may be asking for donations to help. I'm guess-timating the cost to be about $100 to $150. BLM says they are short on funding and short of staff, so I'm thinking that means the entire cost may be on us. With lunch, about a $200 dollar bill. The boat is the variable.

What about the boat? I think if we had a 16 foot utility trailer, we could winch the thing onto it and haul it that way. It's at least a 14 foot fiberglass, (I didn't measure it), might be a 16 footer. We can rip the transmission off to make it shorter and lighter. It's at a dead end spur road up from 5 Way. Does anyone have ideas for how to haul it or where to take it for disposal?

Let me know if you can help in any way. If we get good responses, I'll make it an official event, start promoting it and we'll show off the good side of gun owners. I'll be asking for all volunteers to RSVP so we can get a close headcount for the lunch order. Oh, I'll be providing lunch for all volunteers! And there's a group shoot after the event (which is alway fun!).

Bill Cogley
Trash No Land .org
[email protected]
360-713-8304

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Pretty sure we can make it up.

 

[Cogs]

Pretty sure we can make it up.

That would be great, Craig. Thanks!

 

[Cogs]

CANCELLED. The Five Way cleanup idea is CANCELLED!

Something's come up and I won't be able to put a cleanup together, nor be able to attend. Sorry about that!

I'll let you know if, and when, I can get this done.

Meanwhile, if you can grab a bag or two, please do so!

Bill

 

[6Corsa6]

@Cogs Text me if you want to get the boat. My buddy has a flat bed car trailer with a winch that we should be able to get the boat on. I might be willing to scrap the heavy metal off of it if it's not too nasty to remove.

 

[Cogs]

@Cogs Text me if you want to get the boat. My buddy has a flat bed car trailer with a winch that we should be able to get the boat on. I might be willing to scrap the heavy metal off of it if it's not too nasty to remove.

Thanks man. Perhaps I can shed a little light on what happened while trying to put together this cleanup. (I didn't want to post this, as I know we'd get nothing but negative comments and perhaps even more destruction of the land. But still, I think it should be known.)

My main BLM contact, John M, put me in touch with Dean Reese, a BLM Recreation manager, who told me that the BLM recently has a new policy that they WILL NOT sanction any event that has to do with target shooting! I thought wtf? This is an environmental concern and all we want is to help clean it up! But he said NO, they will not help. So, being pissed off at that reply, I cancelled it.

I also tried contacting USFS Mt Hood Nat Forest with email and phone call voice mail, and never got a return message. That leads me to think they may be on the same page as BLM. So, I bagged the whole idea of a cleanup on, or near, Mt Hood.

NOW, I'm thinking we should actually do it and pay all costs (we don't need their 'Blessing', it's our land we'll do what we need to do!). We can then post about their 'Non-compliance' of what we did and we would shine bright in the eyes of the general public. I'm sure they won't respond, yet will privately be please that we cleaned it up. But at least we show that shooters respect our places to shoot and will not allow government restrict us in any way.

That means more cost to us, mostly in disposal fees, but I'm willing to cover that withTrash No Land general funds.

As for the boat, yes, a trailer like that would be great. I'm not too excited about trying to cut it up, so dragging it onto a trailer would be easier. We can fill the inside with lots of trash bags. The transmission could easily be ripped off, as it only has a few bolts left holding it on. The rest of it is only the fiberglass frame.

Thanks for your help! I'll post about when I'm available to do it (mid/end of Sept). We don't need no stinken Government to tell us what to do!

Bill

 

[RKP]

My wife and I are planning to go up there again Thursday, Sept. 5, at noon for a couple hours.

 

[Cogs]

My wife and I are planning to go up there again Thursday, Sept. 5, at noon for a couple hours.

I probably can't make that. Prep and load gear on Thurs for out of town trip on Friday. We're doing a cleanup at Triangle Pit in the Capitol State Forest on Sat.

We'll try again later. Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully someone else can join you.

Bill

 

[6Corsa6]

Saturdays work better for me in September. That is crap that BLM doesn't want to help pay for any of it considering we are the ones who pay for their agency already. Without stewards cleaning up the forest it would be completely trashed. Even when BLM sponsored and came out to the clean ups it didn't seem like they helped a whole lot other than saying thanks for coming out and cleaning up.
I agree Bill, we don't need the stinking govt to tell us when we can clean our land.

 

[Mikej]

I'm sure they won't respond, yet will privately be please that we cleaned it up. But at least we show that shooters respect our places to shoot and will not allow government restrict us in any way.

Do you have any media contacts that could, maybe, get the story out about BLM and USFS refusing to have anything to do with public land clean-up because it has to do with recreational, legal, target shooting?

This makes me sick to my stomach.