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I don't know how people afford to live in NYC, with what we saw we couldn't live anywhere in NY State, let alone the city.
My oldest son lives in the Hamilton Heights area of Manhattan and has a decent job for a 20-something, paying in the 75k range. Even still, he survives by living in a small apartment with two roommates and a $3k/mo combined rent. NYC is a fun place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

As leftist as Oregon is, it's my family, friends and the outdoors that keeps me here. I've touched about 40 states and there's nowhere that I've seen quite like the PNW if you love the outdoors and a variety of landscapes to explore.
 
honestly this tracks. I grew up visiting Seattle and work there, and lived in NYC for 3 years. Manhattan is very safe, hard to find a place where you're more than a shout away from other people. I find the layout of Seattle to create much larger empty, dark, quiet stretches of city block. Parts of Brooklyn, far out, can be another story. New Yorkers give an order of magnitude less sh*ts than people in Seattle. Hard to ruffle anyone's feathers with folks of all walks of life, opinions, and backgrounds come together.
 
NYC requires a deep pocket.
We hunt in Upstate New York, if you draw a line from NYC to Bufalo we hunt right about in the middle.
I have no desire to visit any major city anywhere.

my non-resident small game/big game New York hunting license cost me $100,
I get four doe tags for $10.

I will be flying back to New York on April 29th to buy a two acre piece of property with two single wide mobile homes, two septics and a shared well, two garages for a hunting camp.

I have a friend from Anacortes that goes back with me to NewYork deer hunting and a friend from Oregon too.
My frien from anacortes has been hunti g New York for three years now, thos Novemberwill be his fourth year hunting thete.
I would waste a dime to hunt here in Washington..

I bring a hundred pounds of venison back with me every year.
My friend for Anacortes brings back a hundred pound every year as well.
My friend from Oregon took hpme fifty pounds of venison.
I will probably bring more venison back when i come back from my my trip in a few weeks.


A few years ago iI took my two grandsons to NYC to visit the Statue of Liberty.

We did a bunch of stuff in Upsate New York.

HOWE CAVERNS

SECRET CAVERNS

HANSFORD MILLS

THE CAR MUESUM IN NORWICH.

LOTS OF SMALL GAME HUNTING

A BUNCH OF SMALL TOWN MUSEUMS

A COAL MINE TOUR AND COAL MINE MUSEUM IN SCRANTON PENNSYLVANIA

THIS YEAR WE WILL GO TO BUFFLAO TO VISIT THE
ANCHOR BAR.
THE START OF BUFFALO WINGS.
 
I've been to the "Big Apple" a couple of times and it is as interesting as much as it sucks. Scum everywhere. Thieves and douche bags abound. Manhattan for all its money can't buy out or force out the human trash. Oh sure sure these are "individuals" with the right to express themselves you say. I wish they'd do it in Europe.

Just my opinion.
 
The opinions on nyc certainly vary...considerably.

Luckily for me, there's not a 'city' in existence I'd ever want to re-visit...including nyc, paris, london, and a whole slew of others in various countries.

I prefer the quiet of country living...with a nearby small, clean town with not single homeless bum to ruin it.
 
The opinions on nyc certainly vary...considerably.

Luckily for me, there's not a 'city' in existence I'd ever want to re-visit...including nyc, paris, london, and a whole slew of others in various countries.

I prefer the quiet of country living...with a nearby small, clean town with not single homeless bum to ruin it.
Agree. NY is probably one of the last places I would go to visit. There are many countries I haven't been to yet. You would absolutely love Ireland. Friendliest people on the planet and most of it is "rural" and laid back (assuming you avoid Dublin).
 
Agree. NY is probably one of the last places I would go to visit. There are many countries I haven't been to yet. You would absolutely love Ireland. Friendliest people on the planet and most of it is "rural" and laid back (assuming you avoid Dublin).
I don't like traveling, period. My wife drags me along, but she promises her bucket list is finished, no more traveling, thank God.

I'm of Irish descent, and I have no desire to visit that hole. The Irish people have lost their minds.
 
Ilike,

Gargantuan cities in any country hold no attraction for me...a city's a city's, meaning a whole 'cluster' of human beans and all their complications...no thanks.

micM,

Are you referring to Ireland going full on 'woke' with the end of 'free speech' or something else?
 
Yes, at least that's what I hear. Maybe I should go have a look for myself? However it's a bit too much travel if the rumors are correct.....
I haven't been there in many years but I couldn't believe most of the country, which is rural, could go woke. But I haven't been there in many years so can't say.
 
I haven't been there in many years but I couldn't believe most of the country, which is rural, could go woke. But I haven't been there in many years so can't say.
Could be like here, a dense urban county calls the shots......

There's a YouTuber GiV German in Venice (CA) that I've been subscribed to for years. He is absolutely not ever political, but he goes back to Germany to document how his hometown has changed, and it's BAD. Again, he's absolutely never political, but even he is dismayed. Everything is Halal this and Halal that, and there's native Germans living homeless on the once vibrant streets of his town. He has met a few classmates on the street who are now homeless. Shockingly many of the homeless have excellent English, so they're not losers. It's just that they are no longer wanted by the current administration.....
 
For my money, there is no place in the continental U.S. I would choose to be over the geography and weather of Washington State from the eastern edge of the Cascades to the Pacific during the summer months.
 
I haven't been there in many years but I couldn't believe most of the country, which is rural, could go woke. But I haven't been there in many years so can't say.
No, the country outside Dublin is pretty cool. But they had to reflexively support their favorite son (Joe Biden) and thus everything he stood for. The West Coast is beautiful and interesting, and yes, very friendly people.
 
Stayed in Manhattan a year before the WTC was knocked down, have pictures standing on top of tower two.
Our experience was, never felt unsafe and the place was as clean as Disneyland. Lots of cool stuff to see too.

Not going back to support that city financially any time soon 👎
 
In the last 40 years I've lived in about 20 different homes in a half dozen different states. Seattle is the only place I've lived where I had unfriendly neighbors.

But it's still my second favorite place of everywhere I've been. Or was.
 

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