First time in NYC, seriously shocked

[made in china]

Been staying in NYC for several days now. First time in my life, and my family and I are shocked.
I am born and raised in AZ, moved to Seattle nearly 25 years ago. I have never really liked Seattle TBH.

At least in the Manhattan area we are staying, this is the nicest people, I had no idea. There's police everywhere, people cleaning the streets. We have been in all parts including the neighborhoods that are "rough" and we feel like we fit in.
People are quick to help us understand the subway, drivers are careful and pedestrians don't challenge or dare drivers. I work in transportation and I am constantly having to deal with the outcome of drugged out, uninsured high speed collisions, and I'm seeing none of that here.

We let our teenage son and his girlfriend go out by themselves at night. Last time we were in downtown Seattle, someone tried to attack my son in front of me. I don't feel like I need to be armed here.

I know that the people here are liberal, but no one flaunts it. I've only seen purple hair twice and those people looked like they were West Coast tourists. I can honestly say that the "Seattle chill" is real. It's crazy how bad Seattle and LA are compared to here. I know I have not seen the bad parts of NY, but in WA state on the West Coast there are no places that have redeeming qualities, you have to go to Eastern Washington to feel that way.

I guess my point is that it's really clear how unhinged the West Coast, especially Seattle area is. What I'm seeing as differences I could write a book on, but I'll spare y'all. This place confirms what I felt about Seattle but I thought I was just being biased about.

A lot of us criticize the West Coast, and it's deserved. Seattle labels itself "world class city" but has more sidewalk poop than culture, actually it has all sidewalk poop and no culture. A modern condo building is not "culture", lack of police is not "culture". Yeah, we have Bellevue, but the people are not nice and the buildings have zero character or history.

That's all for now!

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[Mikej]

Been staying in NYC for several days now. First time in my life, and my family and I are shocked.
I am born and raised in AZ, moved to Seattle nearly 25 years ago. I have never really liked Seattle TBH.

At least in the Manhattan area we are staying, this is the nicest people, I had no idea. There's police everywhere, people cleaning the streets. We have been in all parts including the neighborhoods that are "rough" and we feel like we fit in.
People are quick to help us understand the subway, drivers are careful and pedestrians don't challenge or dare drivers. I work in transportation and I am constantly having to deal with the outcome of drugged out, uninsured high speed collisions, and I'm seeing none of that here.

We let our teenage son and his girlfriend go out by themselves at night. Last time we were in downtown Seattle, someone tried to attack my son in front of me. I don't feel like I need to be armed here.

I know that the people here are liberal, but no one flaunts it. I've only seen purple hair twice and those people looked like they were West Coast tourists. I can honestly say that the "Seattle chill" is real. It's crazy how bad Seattle and LA are compared to here. I know I have not seen the bad parts of NY, but in WA state on the West Coast there are no places that have redeeming qualities, you have to go to Eastern Washington to feel that way.

I guess my point is that it's really clear how unhinged the West Coast, especially Seattle area is. What I'm seeing as differences I could write a book on, but I'll spare y'all. This place confirms what I felt about Seattle but I thought I was just being biased about.

A lot of us criticize the West Coast, and it's deserved. Seattle labels itself "world class city" but has more sidewalk poop than culture, actually it has all sidewalk poop and no culture. A modern condo building is not "culture", lack of police is not "culture". Yeah, we have Bellevue, but the people are not nice and the buildings have zero character or history.

That's all for now!

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there now. Feel better?

 

[made in china]

Jeez, I seem to be pretty good at getting threads locked! Not trying to be political at all here, but I've managed to cross the line several times the last few months and get locked.

I'm just sharing an observation and not discussing politics. No politics, just differences

 

[Mikej]

Jeez, I seem to be pretty good at getting threads locked! Not trying to be political at all here, but I've managed to cross the line several times the last few months and get locked.

I'm just sharing an observation and not discussing politics. No politics, just differences

Who was talking politics?

 

[arakboss]

How many subway riders have you seen killed so far?

 

[Knobgoblin]

How many subway riders have you seen killed so far?

I've been in a few cities. It seems like there're massively different realities in the same exact space depending on the time of day, or day of the week.
A street corner or transit hub will be one thing Monday morning at 8am. And something completely different at 2am on the weekend.

 

[arakboss]

I've been in a few cities. It seems like there're massively different realities in the same exact space depending on the time of day, or day of the week.
A street corner or transit hub will be one thing Monday morning at 8am. And something completely different at 2am on the weekend.

It seems like subway riders get killed, injured or hassled at all hours of the day in NYC?

 

[Knobgoblin]

It seems like subway riders get killed, injured or hassled at all hours of the day in NYC?

Still probably incredibly rare to see.
And being out and about after 10pm would probably be more likely.

Lol. No " data " to back my theory.

 

[ivan_drago]

A city doesn't need to be a complete war zone or a movie set for World War Z (like Seattle) in order to be unsafe. The violent crime numbers vs the population in NYC kind of work in one's favor... until they don't. You will never confuse it with Tokyo.

 

[Tlock]

Been staying in NYC for several days now. First time in my life, and my family and I are shocked.
I am born and raised in AZ, moved to Seattle nearly 25 years ago. I have never really liked Seattle TBH.

At least in the Manhattan area we are staying, this is the nicest people, I had no idea. There's police everywhere, people cleaning the streets. We have been in all parts including the neighborhoods that are "rough" and we feel like we fit in.
People are quick to help us understand the subway, drivers are careful and pedestrians don't challenge or dare drivers. I work in transportation and I am constantly having to deal with the outcome of drugged out, uninsured high speed collisions, and I'm seeing none of that here.

We let our teenage son and his girlfriend go out by themselves at night. Last time we were in downtown Seattle, someone tried to attack my son in front of me. I don't feel like I need to be armed here.

I know that the people here are liberal, but no one flaunts it. I've only seen purple hair twice and those people looked like they were West Coast tourists. I can honestly say that the "Seattle chill" is real. It's crazy how bad Seattle and LA are compared to here. I know I have not seen the bad parts of NY, but in WA state on the West Coast there are no places that have redeeming qualities, you have to go to Eastern Washington to feel that way.

I guess my point is that it's really clear how unhinged the West Coast, especially Seattle area is. What I'm seeing as differences I could write a book on, but I'll spare y'all. This place confirms what I felt about Seattle but I thought I was just being biased about.

A lot of us criticize the West Coast, and it's deserved. Seattle labels itself "world class city" but has more sidewalk poop than culture, actually it has all sidewalk poop and no culture. A modern condo building is not "culture", lack of police is not "culture". Yeah, we have Bellevue, but the people are not nice and the buildings have zero character or history.

That's all for now!

I was waiting for the punch line.....

 

[Knobgoblin]

I was waiting for the punch line.....

Cloned Dire wolves in the sewers?

 

[Tlock]

They could name them Michelangelo, Leonardo, Donatello and Raphael

 

[made in china]

How many subway riders have you seen killed so far?

Only 2, statistically insignificant compared to the large population.

I'm too fat to be pushed onto the tracks!

 

[Knobgoblin]

Only 2, statistically insignificant compared to the large population.

I'm too fat to be pushed onto the tracks!

YOKOZUNA!

 

[arakboss]

Only 2, statistically insignificant compared to the large population.

I'm too fat to be pushed onto the tracks!

Did you do the 55gal barrel trip over Niagara Falls yet?

 

[Tlock]

Having spent time in NY I have to say it absolutely sucks! There are better and worse places to visit. Philly was by far the worst place in the US I've been

 

[made in china]

Did you do the 55gal barrel trip over Niagara Falls yet?

Dude, wife is looking for something to do today!

 

[made in china]

Having spent time in NY I have to say it absolutely sucks! There are better and worse places to visit. Philly was by far the worst place in the US I've been

Oh yeah, I realize NY is yuge and there are bad parts. Just there's no "good" parts of Seattle to redeem it!

We did get into some not-so-good neighborhoods yesterday, far dingier than midtown, barely even moved the needle on my sketch-o-meter which gets fully pegged in many parts of Seattle, like South Seattle on MLK

 

[Aero Denezol]

Spent some time in both NYC and Seattle. Seattle is a pretentious city, as is Portland. If you aren't signaling the right things you will be talked down to. Average New Yorkers have too many serious problems to deal with. Everything is a struggle if you live in a place like that. People can be brusque but they are fundamentally good hearted.

There is a difference between Democrat and Liberal. Out here in the Pacific Northwest we've taken the "blue-haired sh hole" ideaology out to the max. The West Coast is different from the rest of the country. Travel gives the most valuable perspectives.

 

[made in china]

Spent some time in both NYC and Seattle. Seattle is a pretentious city, as is Portland. If you aren't signaling the right things you will be talked down to. Average New Yorkers have too many serious problems to deal with. Everything is a struggle if you live in a place like that. People can be brusque but they are fundamentally good hearted.

There is a difference between Democrat and Liberal. Out here in the Pacific Northwest we've taken the "blue-haired sh hole" ideaology out to the max. The West Coast is different from the rest of the country. Travel gives the most valuable perspectives.

Summed up my observation succinctly!