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Drama Queens or Hysterical Personalities at Work: Subject: "No on HB 3903A. You have to call your...

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by tkdguy, May 13, 2015.

  1. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    legislator because this bill is crazy". THE ABOVE SUBJECT HEADING ON "NO HB 3993A" IS FROM CEASEFIRE. Please note the drama queen and hysteric-type language that CeaseFire has recently authored and note how the sensational language is used to manipulate the reader.




    NO on HB 3093A

    HB 3093A would permit concealed handgun license (CHL) reciprocity. This means that people licensed to carry concealed guns in one state (like Oregon) can carry in another state (like Colorado) as long as both states recognize each others' CHLs.

    HB 3093A will allow poorly trained, non-resident CHL holders to carry loaded, hidden guns in Oregon public schools and on our streets. That is just crazy!

    HB 3093A has a lot of problems, including:

    • lax CHL trainingin Oregon which means poorly trained CHL holders coming into our state,
    • other states who haveissued CHLs to felons,
    • and acostthat would be borne by Oregon taxpayers.
    HB 3093A will be heard tomorrow, May 14, in the Senate Judiciary Committee. Please call the members NOW and tell them to vote
    NO on HB 3093A.

    Sen. Ginny Burdick: 503-986-1718,Sen.GinnyBurdick@state.or.us

    Sen. Floyd Prozanski: 503-986-1704,Sen.FloydProzanski@state.or.us

    Sen. Sara Gelser: 503-986-1708,Sen.SaraGelser@state.or.us

    Sen. Jeff Kruse: 503-986-1701,Sen.JeffKruse@state.or.us

    Sen.KimThatcher: 503-986-1713,Sen.KimThatcher@state.or.us

    Who will benefit from HB 3093A? Only a few CHL holders who will save a small amount of time and money if they want to travel to a state--provided that state is even willing to enter into reciprocity with Oregon.

    Why Ceasefire Oregon opposes HB 3093A

    Oregon Concealed Handgun License training requirements are very lax:

    • In Oregon, a person is not even required to touch a gun, let alone show competency in shooting, to obtain a CHL. EvenTEXAShas higher CHL requirements than Oregon.
    • Some states (Delawareand, yes, evenTexas) require training on how to deal with violent confrontations. Oregon does not.
    A CHL is not a guarantee of lawful behavior:

    • According to theViolence Policy Center,743 people have been shot to death by someone legally permitted to carry a concealed gun--and that's just since 2007.
    • In addition,29 mass shootingshave been committed by CHL holders and17 law enforcement officers have been killedby CHL holders.
    • Florida, which would likely be eligible for reciprocity, issued1,400 concealed carry permits to felonsin 2007 alone! (1) Between 2007 and 2011, North Carolina (another state which could be eligible) issued2,400 concealed carry permits to people convicted of misdemeanor crimes or felonies.
    The cost to maintain and implement the law:

    • The Oregon Department of Justice would be required to examine the concealed carry laws of every single state, every single year.Who pays for that? Oregon taxpayers!
    • A database would required to maintain all the concealed carry holders in the United States. When someone is pulled over by a police officer, will the police officer be able to recognize a legitimate paper license from another state? Perhaps not. The officer will rely on a database of all CHL holders.Who will pay to implement and maintain that database? Oregon taxpayers!
    • The database would need to be constantly updated to reflect new CHL holders or those who have had their CHLs revoked.Who will pay for that constant maintenance? Oregon taxpayers!
    The cost of HB 3093A is too great, both in terms of safety and what the taxpayer must bear.

    NO on HB 3093A

    1. Megan O’Matz and John Maines, “License to Carry: Florida’s Flawed Concealed Weapon Law,” Sun Sentinel, January 28, 2007, available athttp://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2007-01-28/news/0701270316_1_gun-licensing-system.

    2. Michael Luo,“Guns in Public, and Out of Sight,”The New York Times, December 26, 2011, available athttp://www.nytimes. com/2011/12/27/us/more-concealed-guns-and-some-are-in-the-wrong-hands.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Ceasefire along with prozanski and his ilk really need to be in an asylum for the severely mentally deranged.
    Someone has used their cranial cavity as a toilet once too many times.
     
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  3. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    VERY NICELY PUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  4. OLDNEWBIE

    OLDNEWBIE State of Flux Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you should put a BIG DISCLAIMER on this tdkguy. At first glance it appears that WE should all write and call saying NO on HB 3093A:eek:
    We all are a bit trigger happy with the E-mails to Reps lately:oops:
     
  5. tkdguy

    tkdguy Portland, Oregon Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    I DID PUT AN INSERT WITHIN THE FIRST FEW SENTENCES--I HOPE THAT HELPS.

    IMHO: THE WAY THEIR ASSERTIONS AND DIRECTIONS ARE SCRIPTED AND THEIR USE OF AND CHOICE OF LANGUAGE IS SUGGESTIVE OF NOT ONLY VERY UNSTABLE CHARACTERS BUT THE AUTHOR'S INTENT TO MANIPULATE PEOPLE WITH THE USE OF DRAMA TO CONTROL OTHERS (I.E. THEIR CONSTITUENTS) AND CONFORM THEIR (I.E. THE AUTHOR'S) OWN PERCEPTIONS TO ANTICIPATE THE MALEVOLENT INTENTIONS OF OTHERS WHERE THERE IS NO MALICE AT ALL. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT WHO EVER IS WRITING THE SCRIPT OR THEIR CONSULTANTS APPEARS QUITE GRANDIOSE AND IRRATIONALLY SUPRA JUDGMENTAL. I wonder who follows these types of people?

    Just food for thought.
     
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