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Proof that even in New York City, the blind squirrel might eventually find an acorn...

I don't think we should view this singular example of the justice system in NYC actually working as a precedent and a sign of things to come, however....
 
Proof that even in New York City, the blind squirrel might eventually find an acorn...

I don't think we should view this singular example of the justice system in NYC actually working as a precedent and a sign of things to come, however....
True but something needs to happen about these prosecutions over political biases or social biases. Thats not going to be an easy thing to solve though.
 
This was a close case. It was a hung jury on the first count, and the charge was allowed to be dismissed in order to get to charge two (which the judge even said was a novel legal theory that might not hold up on appeal). It was actually kinda surprising that the jury came back quickly with a not guilty on the lesser charge, despite being hung on the greater charge. I would love to understand how deliberations came to that conclusion.

But this is a good outcome, and the result does moot any questions on the legality of the dismissals. I am not sure if this novel legal theory will come back as relevant in the civil case (either the one against Penny or the one his team is considering against Bragg). This circus is not over, and there are many more questions to be answered.
 
He should and should also counter sue the pos dad coming out of the woodwork looking for a big payday in a civil case for raising a pos mental case kid then abandoning onto the public.
I am actually more interested in the civil case against Penny. I am not sure the case against Bragg will get very far, there are too many protections for malicious PAs for such a case to easily overcome. They are basically going to need an overt admission the case was political, and the fact that the jury hung on the first count is a strong defense for Bragg that there was legal merit to the case. But I would love to be wrong on that.

The civil case against Penny, however, is going to be the interesting one. By all rights it should be throw out on filing, as there is no "there" there for the father to stand on. It is a blatant cash grab for a relative who had zero contact with the purported victim. But I am sure politics will come into play and the case will move forwards, maybe even to a jury. That could be bad for Penny, and I can see appeals going on for years over any verdict. If indeed it is not throw out immediately I would love to see a counter-suite, not just from Penny but from all the other riders on that train, as well as from prior victims. If the father is willing to hang his grief on the death despite the estrangement, maybe there is a case to be made about the abandonment of a mental basket case to his fate. It does seem to me that those two concepts are closely related, and if the father has a case he also likely has culpability.
 
This was a close case. It was a hung jury on the first count, and the charge was allowed to be dismissed in order to get to charge two (which the judge even said was a novel legal theory that might not hold up on appeal). It was actually kinda surprising that the jury came back quickly with a not guilty on the lesser charge, despite being hung on the greater charge. I would love to understand how deliberations came to that conclusion.
I suspect that when the judge directed the jury to remain in session and address the lesser charge, they had been previously informed that failure to reach a verdict on the greater charge would mean that the lesser charge would not be addressed. Under those circumstances, the jurors would likely feel that the judge was stretching the rules to keep them in session in an attempt to make a charge stick. They had expected to be released after being hung on the Manslaughter charge, and now felt that they were being used in an unreasonable manner. Under the circumstances, they decided to give the judge the middle finger, and a decision that left him with no option but to let them go home. This implies that those who would not acquit on the Manslaughter charges were motivated by feelings, rather than facts, and in the second deliberation were not so adamant when faced with another prolonged session in the jury room. Going home was more important that making a racial statement.
 
I suspect that when the judge directed the jury to remain in session and address the lesser charge, they had been previously informed that failure to reach a verdict on the greater charge would mean that the lesser charge would not be addressed. Under those circumstances, the jurors would likely feel that the judge was stretching the rules to keep them in session in an attempt to make a charge stick. They had expected to be released after being hung on the Manslaughter charge, and now felt that they were being used in an unreasonable manner. Under the circumstances, they decided to give the judge the middle finger, and a decision that left him with no option but to let them go home. This implies that those who would not acquit on the Manslaughter charges were motivated by feelings, rather than facts, and in the second deliberation were not so adamant when faced with another prolonged session in the jury room. Going home was more important that making a racial statement.
An interesting and plausible sounding postulation. My impression of the jury from reports was not one that would lead me to think them capable of such nuance, but then I was sure he was going to hang for the lesser charge when the jury was recessed for the weekend. I was sure the case would go on to appeal and the question of judicial propriety on the dismissal and consideration of lesser charges would have been the centerpiece for the defense (which I think was a strong argument). The jury blew my assumptions out of the water with their verdict, not least of all because it was so fast. (also the was an open question on jury taint due to the street riots audible from the courtroom). I am very glad for Penny on the outcome, but I think it would have been important to see the results of those questions. It is, from a legal perspective, disappointing to see them mooted.
 
True but something needs to happen about these prosecutions over political biases or social biases. Thats not going to be an easy thing to solve though.
It will NEVER get better until enough people who live there decide they have had enough. As always happens in heavy blue area's the "victims" ask for more. Until a LOT more of them decide they no longer wish to be victims nothing is going to change. Those who live there? They need to take a hard look at this hero and remember it. If they see some freak attacking people they don't know? Best to let the freak have his fun. Protect yourself and your own. The rest of them? Tough 💩
 
An interesting and plausible sounding postulation. My impression of the jury from reports was not one that would lead me to think them capable of such nuance, but then I was sure he was going to hang for the lesser charge when the jury was recessed for the weekend. I was sure the case would go on to appeal and the question of judicial propriety on the dismissal and consideration of lesser charges would have been the centerpiece for the defense (which I think was a strong argument). The jury blew my assumptions out of the water with their verdict, not least of all because it was so fast. (also the was an open question on jury taint due to the street riots audible from the courtroom). I am very glad for Penny on the outcome, but I think it would have been important to see the results of those questions. It is, from a legal perspective, disappointing to see them mooted.
I have not seen them poll them yet. If they were to? I suspect one moron was holding out wanting to jail him. When they were sent back that one moron decided they just wanted to get the hell out of there and go home so they caved.
I have to hope that any of them who wanted him jailed get a good taste of some of these street freaks and NO ONE comes to their aid.
 
It will NEVER get better until enough people who live there decide they have had enough. As always happens in heavy blue area's the "victims" ask for more. Until a LOT more of them decide they no longer wish to be victims nothing is going to change. Those who live there? They need to take a hard look at this hero and remember it. If they see some freak attacking people they don't know? Best to let the freak have his fun. Protect yourself and your own. The rest of them? Tough 💩
The people that vote for this are not living in reality.
 
The people that vote for this are not living in reality.
Humans have an amazing ability to believe ANYTHING they want to believe. Many of them can watch a video and if it does not fit with what they want? They will walk away convinced they did not see what they just watched.
When you have someone with a advanced degree that tells you they have no way to know what a woman is? It is a mental disorder.
 
It is a mental disorder.
I was being nice but some call it the "woke mind virus".
I cant decide if its a mental disorder or just a result of radical indoctrination. You can take a healthy child and raise it to believe anything you can imagine, does that mean the child has a mental disorder? Or maybe is possible to grow a mental disorder?
I dunno. I just know there is a huge disconnect with reality and it does not discriminate against education, even very highly educated people.
 
I was being nice but some call it the "woke mind virus".
I cant decide if its a mental disorder or just a result of radical indoctrination. You can take a healthy child and raise it to believe anything you can imagine, does that mean the child has a mental disorder? Or maybe is possible to grow a mental disorder?
I dunno. I just know there is a huge disconnect with reality and it does not discriminate against education, even very highly educated people.
Some of the grifters are of course laughing themselves silly behind closed doors. Many people? I don't know how else to describe it other than they have mental problems. :(
 

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