Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Concealed carry on your own or private land???

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by oa98pistol512, Dec 17, 2011.

  1. oa98pistol512

    oa98pistol512 salem area Member

    Messages:
    277
    Likes Received:
    18
    OK I was just wondering how the law reads on concealed weapon on your own property in or out of home but still on your own or private land. How I was reading it if somone wanted me to carry concealed on their property or I was carrying on my own property a ccw is not needed in oregon. Is this correct?
     
  2. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,293
    Likes Received:
    753
    I carry on MY LAND any way I want.
     
  3. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,990
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    Exactly.
     
  4. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    Care to cite some PC sections and/or case law ?
     
  5. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,379
    Likes Received:
    7,596
    I believe Oregon is like Washington in they are of "English Law" ,so if there isn't a law against it,it is legal.

    So where is the law that says you can't carry any way you want on private property?
     
  6. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    Our whole nation is like that. Yet you've got to know what's prohibited in order to deduce what's allowed.
     
  7. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,379
    Likes Received:
    7,596
    Just trying to have you come up with a link for this,as you wanted the other guy to.
     
    safetyman and (deleted member) like this.
  8. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    Sorry man, by rules of debate I don't have to.
     
  9. Misterbill

    Misterbill Yakima County, Washington New Member

    Messages:
    1,308
    Likes Received:
    1,013
    You've already been presented with a valid legal argument. If you want to refute it, it's up to YOU to produce an argument.

    I can verify that WA is under common law statute and that what isn't prohibited is allowed. the only sticky point of OC is our bizarre brandishing law which puts into the hands of the jury virtually anything thar's "threatening."
     
  10. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    10,379
    Likes Received:
    7,596
    I'm not sure what is being questioned anyway. I mean if you have a gun in your pocket and are walking around on your own property,SANELY,who would even have a clue you were CCing?

    What's the issue here?
    If you are acting like an A$$hat or yelling at the neighbors,you may get a visit.And if you did or said anything threatening,they may ask if you are armed.

    But mowing the lawn? Walking to the garage while CCing?

    Who would know?
     
  11. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    1,186

    Well if you want a list of everything prohibited and thus not covered by the old English law of, that which is not expressly prohibited is permitted, I would say you are asking for a post that someone could very conceivably spend the rest of their life on.
     
  12. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,990
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    a3821298-245-Youre-a-troll-A-very-successful-troll.jpg
     
    iusmc2002 and (deleted member) like this.
  13. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    List of everything prohibited ? Are you serious ? Okay, let's assume you are. All it takes is the statute which prohibits carrying of concealed firearms where the text suggests that private property is exempt. Then there might be some case law people heard about, etc. My post was to highlight that the attitude "I do it, so it must be legal" is a bad one, and can come out with legal consequences for somebody one day.
     
  14. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    1,186

    And when that doesn't exist?
     
  15. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    What do you mean that doesn't exist ? Oregon prohibits carrying concealed in public without CHL, so statutes are there. Google, analyze, and make a point.
    And like I said, though normally not easy to find, case law sometimes makes a lot of difference. To give you an example from our neighbors :
    You can carry concealed firearm on private property in California (without a permit), but a court decision altered definition of private property - if it's not fenced, then it's not private.
     
    Bob D and (deleted member) like this.
  16. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    I am sure there is a more renown link for this.

    ================================================

    Oregon Gun Laws - What are the Gun Laws in Oregon

    It is unlawful to carry concealed upon the person or concealed about one’s person in a vehicle any firearm unless one has a license to carry a concealed weapon.
    Exceptions to the above prohibition are:

    Persons possessing a handgun at their home or place of business.
    Organizations, which are by law, authorized to purchase or receive weapons from the United States.
    Policemen and law enforcement personnel, whether active or honorably retired.
    Military personnel when on active or reserve duty.
    Members of a shooting club while at a range or going to and from a range.
    Licensed hunters or fishermen, while engaged in hunting or fishing or going to and from a hunting or fishing expedition.
    Merchants transporting or possessing firearms as merchandise.
    Duly authorized military or civil organizations while parading or traveling to a meeting of their organization.
    Corrections officer while transporting convict. Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not considered to be concealed.
     
  17. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    ===============================================

    The bolded is not factual, there are exceptions for conceal carry with out a license.
     
  18. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    So my next question would be, what if I have a piece of farmland. Would it be covered ? Obviously it's not a home, and it's not a business either.
     
  19. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,440
    Likes Received:
    491
    I wasn't making a factual statement. All I was saying there is some regulation in place, and one has to read the statute to figure out its reach.
     
  20. gunnails

    gunnails Hillsboro Active Member

    Messages:
    752
    Likes Received:
    210
    =============================================

    You're turn to use the Google machine.