I have read several of the threads ab out HAM and CB. We are looking for the right systems to be able to communicate with several friends around Clackamas county a SHTF situation. Not really interested in cross country but it needs to be more than line-of-sight since there are many hills and mountains. Major power outages is a concern as is the ability to communicate with minimal training for all family members. I was going to by several CB systems for several vehicles but a buddy is pushing very hard to get me into HAM. The guys at D&R Communications are great but they seem to miss the mark with me. Lets discuss the pro's and con's of each so guys like me can learn.