Cartel Gun Problem and Border

[Flopsweat]

Some of this is wrong, but some is correct. During Obama ATFE ran an operations that allowed large amount of firearms to be purchased illegally from dealers in border states. AFTE instructed dealers to violate the law in doing this, straw buyers, etc. ATFE was supposed to track the weapons. But ATFE lost track on a majority of these firearms. The lid blew off the pot when one of the "lost" firearms was used in the shooting death of a Border Patrol Agent. Then there was another rumor that 70% (possibly) of "ALL" firearms used in crimes in Mexico came from the US. What the pro control persons failed to state was that of all the firearms confiscated, reported in the 100,000 plus, only about 15,000 had some identifying marks that would allow any type of tracking. Of that group a high percent did come from the US. I'll have to pull the articles from my files.

Thanks for that. If I recall correctly, the gun running scheme didn't start with Obama. It was started one or two administrations before his. At some point they tried imbedding tracking devices in the firearms but it didn't go well. The entire operation was abandoned during the Bush administration. Under Obama, it was started up again and expanded, but without the tracking devices. The guns or vehicles they were in were not tracked past the border. I'm not sure I ever understood how they expected to catch back up with them.

 

[Nightvisionary]

I am very closely involved with cartel and border issues. ATF operation Fast and Furious that resulted in the murder of BORTAC Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was nothing more than a artificial nexus to provide a basis for limiting 2A rights. The cartels have no problem acquiring weapons from the same South American sources that provide much of their cocaine supply. The cartels also have direct connections to Hezbollah and other foreign terror groups from which they acquire weapons. In addition the cartels regularly employ mexican military and police to guard their shipments. When I was at the Arizona/Mexico border last January a mexican military unit was occupying a hill on U.S. territory protecting a shipment. This is a regular occurrence and when it happens U.S. Border Patrol agents are instructed to leave the area.

 

[Ura-Ki]

I am very closely involved with cartel and border issues. ATF operation Fast and Furious that resulted in the murder of BORTAC Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was nothing more than a artificial nexus to provide a basis for limiting 2A rights. The cartels have no problem acquiring weapons from the same South American sources that provide much of their cocaine supply. The cartels also have direct connections to Hezbollah and other foreign terror groups from which they acquire weapons. In addition the cartels regularly employ mexican military and police to guard their shipments. When I was at the Arizona/Mexico border last January a mexican military unit was occupying a hill on U.S. territory protecting a shipment. This is a regular occurrence and when it happens U.S. Border Patrol agents are instructed to leave the area.

I can back up the last part, having spent quite a bit of time in southern Az near the border, there was all sorts of stuff being hiked in over the mountains in areas difficult to patrol by land or air, and during peak cool weather, a nightly occurrence!