Article on corner crossing into fed lands

[Mikej]

I am just 'slightly' confused by this.....

I looked up 'corner crossing and the definition I go was:

Corner crossing stems from the public's desire to access their public land by stepping from one corner of public to another.

OK - so IF you step from the CORNER of one section of PUBLIC land to that of another how are you on private land?

Obviously I must be missing something.

Yeah. A good dose of built-in common sense makes it horribly difficult to understand WTF the problem is.

The presumption is, there's a fence there, going out in four directions. You'll put a ladder over at the point where they come together. + And, I guess, when your on that ladder, your going to have to be over private property? If I'm wrong about this I'd sure like to be corrected, because it sounds just TOO stupid to me!

 

[Koda]

Yeah. A good dose of built-in common sense makes it horribly difficult to understand WTF the problem is.

The presumption is, there's a fence there, going out in four directions. You'll put a ladder over at the point where they come together. + And, I guess, when your on that ladder, your going to have to be over private property? If I'm wrong about this I'd sure like to be corrected, because it sounds just TOO stupid to me!

The "elephant in the closet" (real issue) here are the landowners who dont want the public to use public lands their property locks out from access so the landowner can hunt, fish, camp, graze or whatever adds to their private land.

 

[Mikej]

The "elephant in the closet" (real issue) here are the landowners who dont want the public to use public lands their property locks out from access so the landowner can hunt, fish, camp, graze or whatever adds to their private land.

I would presume that land owners will be able to charge people for access to their land for hunting the publics resource also?
I was never a hunter, but my father and I did go up into MT, WY, ID and fish many rivers/stream/creeks when I was young. Same thing in a lot of places in Utah too. I garrun-damn-T most of those places we fished aren't available now to just park and walk into.

 

[Koda]

I would presume that land owners will be able to charge people for access to their land for hunting the publics resource also?

I don't know what the legality is of charging recreation access to someones private land.

 

[The Heretic]

Im a huge proponent of public access but the last thing a landowner needs is to be responsible for building and maintaining safe public access. It should be up to the public to cross without damaging others property.

Or the liability, which, as a landowner, I would NOT want (fortunately, my land is totally encompassed by private land and you have to trespass on other's land or drive on a marked private road {which I own} before you can even see, much less get to my acreage).

 

[RVTECH]

The presumption is, there's a fence there, going out in four directions. You'll put a ladder over at the point where they come together. + And, I guess, when your on that ladder, your going to have to be over private property? If I'm wrong about this I'd sure like to be corrected, because it sounds just TOO stupid to me!

This is EXACTLY how I interpreted it as well but it seemed too overly simplistic to me and was looking for other ways around this.

 

[Mikej]

I don't know what the legality is of charging recreation access to someones private land.

Warehouser charges, I've heard, in the neighborhood of $300.00 to hunt their land. Which, if i understand correctly, USED TO BE, "OUR" land. Now I figure if I had, say 100-500 acres in Eastern Oregon, that I could charge hunters to walk on to MY property? And shoot the public's elk? Of course there'd be some hush money,, I mean, a charge/tax/fee/ransom, that I would have to pay to the state to stay in good graces with them.

 

[Koda]

Warehouser charges, I've heard, in the neighborhood of $300.00 to hunt their land. Which, if i understand correctly, USED TO BE, "OUR" land. Now I figure if I had, say 100-500 acres in Eastern Oregon, that I could charge hunters to walk on to MY property? And shoot the public's elk? Of course there'd be some hush money,, I mean, a charge/tax/fee/ransom, that I would have to pay to the state to stay in good graces with them.

Yeah, Wayerhouser also has millions to offset the risk of lawsuits if someone is injured on their land. The private individual owner like us mostly cant afford one lawsuit if they charged the public to recreate on their land.
Im also against corporations owning public natural resources like timber and land but thats another subject.

People should be allowed to corner cross, but they should also have to fix the fence if they mess it up.

 

[Lilhigbee]

If people weren't such plucking pigs it probably help the situation quite a bit. I have acquaintances with thousands of acres of timberland, all posted "NO Hunting", "NO Trespassing", etc. not because they mind people hunting or fishing, but because of the liability if anything happens to them, as well was the poachers, trash dumpers, fire starters, stolen-car abandoners, etc. etc. etc. that they have to deal with. Without posting the land they have no recourse when something goes off the rails.

 

[Mikej]

If people weren't such plucking pigs it probably help the situation quite a bit. I have acquaintances with thousands of acres of timberland, all posted "NO Hunting", "NO Trespassing", etc. not because they mind people hunting or fishing, but because of the liability if anything happens to them, as well was the poachers, trash dumpers, fire starters, stolen-car abandoners, etc. etc. etc. that they have to deal with. Without posting the land they have no recourse when something goes off the rails.

Well, there is THAT! It ain't right, but that's the way it is. G-D'mitt!

And I think you meant "Plucking FIGS" ?

 

[No_Regerts]

So….zip line?